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In reply to the discussion: We're in deep, deep trouble. It's very unlikely that we win this war [View all]
pfitz59
(12,598 posts)21. Trump already said Iran 'surrendered'
Don't you read his posts?
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We're in deep, deep trouble. It's very unlikely that we win this war [View all]
3_Limes
Yesterday
OP
Regarding "boots on the ground": could be the most laughingstock military catastrophe of all time
Tetrachloride
Yesterday
#2
Islamic Revolutionary Guard suicide squads vs. Christian Warfighters led by the athletic and highly fit Major Hegseth
dalton99a
Yesterday
#7
If only we could limit our troops on the front lines to the christian nationalists and christofascists
Jerry2144
Yesterday
#49
Stephen Miller, the tech oligarchs and the "Last Days" Nutrider Christian Evangelicals. /nt
artemisia1
Yesterday
#16
He's talked about it over the years, and do think he likes the idea of pushing that button.
3_Limes
Yesterday
#10
Do you really think Hegseth wouldn't jump at that chance to show what a real man he is?
Lonestarblue
Yesterday
#64
Iran is also backed by TWO superpowers, both with significant industrial capacity and a much larger ability to
artemisia1
Yesterday
#13
And you know this how? Please explain Iran's dramatically improved performance over the 12 Day War. It's
artemisia1
Yesterday
#20
And motivated to bog the US down in a Vietnam like quagmire (just like the US did to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan
Strelnikov_
Yesterday
#23
Exactly. Add to that the strategic location, resources and transit routes for the "Belt and Road" initiative and you
artemisia1
Yesterday
#24
Just not reality... Iran has pissed off all it's neighbors and is left only with Russia and China
WarGamer
Yesterday
#14
When it comes to Iran, they could do enormous damage to us with cyberattacks and we know they're capable of it.
Vinca
Yesterday
#15
IMHO, the geurilla campain following regulat military actions will go for years and be
3_Limes
Yesterday
#22
Our only hope is for Trump to find a face-saving offramp -- if his handlers allow it. /nt
artemisia1
Yesterday
#26
That's why J think we lose. The US public is not gonna go for send 500k soldiers overseas for any reason.
3_Limes
Yesterday
#32
TSF doesn't even comprehend the VALUE of learning from other experiences
RandomNumbers
Yesterday
#29
The US is challenged, but not necessarily for all of the reasons you mentioned
Renew Deal
Yesterday
#35
This make more sense to me. Views of US are already hostile and history should have been enough of a warning
Deuxcents
Yesterday
#59
Bombing stuff means more $ for MIC donors to Trump & GOP, so yeah lots of bombing stuff
Attilatheblond
Yesterday
#66
Doesn't understand, doesn't want to understand, doesn't care that he doesn't understand.
tanyev
Yesterday
#36
If US troops are expected to go in, then Israeli troops should also be on the ground in Iran.
ChicagoTeamster
Yesterday
#46
I know. I'm very familiar with the wars from 48 through the 73 Yom Kippur war. But destabilizing the entire region is
ChicagoTeamster
Yesterday
#60
Well, pardon my new picked nit: Iran is not an Arab country; hence, no "other."
ColoringFool
Yesterday
#71
I know, they're Persian. And they weren't involved in the Arab Israeli wars. The shah maintained covert ties with Israel
ChicagoTeamster
5 hrs ago
#73
Netanyahu ruled out Israeli troops in 2002 per Congressman. "You have to do it"
vanessa_ca
Yesterday
#70
We're "Involved" Like Hitler Was "Involved." WE ARE THE AGGRESSOR, AND DESERVE ....
ColoringFool
Yesterday
#48
General Paul Eaton said the US does not have sufficient ground troops for a land war in Iran.
surfered
Yesterday
#52
Our credibility is shot because there's no consistency to our approach or actions with them. There's no trust
Deuxcents
Yesterday
#62
Well, it doesn't help that "win" has no fixed definition for The Dotard or his minions.
RockRaven
Yesterday
#55
Unlikely my fat ass. There is NO way in hell that the US wins this war.
Ferrets are Cool
23 hrs ago
#72