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fujiyamasan

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5. This either goes on until Putin dies or until Ukraine gives up territory

Tue Apr 14, 2026, 09:50 PM

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And it depends on who comes to power after Putin. It’s not clear if any so called moderates or doves exist, or if they’ve all been purged. It appears to be the latter.

Of course even if Ukraine gives up territory, there’s no reason to trust Putin in honoring any agreement, or to believe this wouldn’t restart a few years down the line (Putin rearms further and relaunches).

It goes to show how delusional he was in launching this war in the first place.

There’s really no choice but for Europe to further assist Ukraine in arming itself. It may actually be in their interests for the US to leave NATO, since Trump’s actions primarily benefit Russia anyways.

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Ukraine is killing Russians with no shred of humanity. Why should they? [View all] OAITW r.2.0 Tuesday OP

Be nice if Putin suffered the same fate as Orban and got kicked in the teeth at the ballot box. magicarpet Tuesday #1

The only way Putin gets out of Ukraine is he if he decides staying in might get him killed. BannonsLiver Tuesday #2

We do know this. Putin has fucked Russia for a decade. OAITW r.2.0 Tuesday #3

I would think so too. BannonsLiver Tuesday #6

Sensible Russian troops surrender in response to the Ukrainians' "I Want to Live" programme Emrys Tuesday #4

This either goes on until Putin dies or until Ukraine gives up territory fujiyamasan Tuesday #5

Ukraine ain't giving up a square foot of their territory. OAITW r.2.0 Tuesday #8

100%. Not. One. Square. Inch. ColoringFool Tuesday #17

And, oddly enough, the Donbas has billions of valuable mineral deposits. OAITW r.2.0 Tuesday #23

All he has to do The Bopper Tuesday #21

Not one square inch! Ukraine has been fighting for their freedom and after all this sacrifice, they won't give up Deuxcents Tuesday #31

I don't know why he was delusional... Trueblue Texan Tuesday #25

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Tuesday #7

If the Ukrainian estimates are accurate, Russia is losing somewhere between 1 and 2 battalions/day hatrack Tuesday #9

Russian losses are mind-boggling. They haven't had this type of loss since WWII. OAITW r.2.0 Tuesday #10

If I might retort from the headline blue-wave Tuesday #11

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Tuesday #13

Historically they have never cared about the rank and file soldiers. Just throw them into the meat grinder mitch96 Tuesday #18

Then their Civil War had even more die than in WWI ITAL Tuesday #27

Russia is conscripting old and emaciated Billsdaughter Tuesday #12

I sent 3 of those FLAK survival kits oberle Tuesday #22

You havecsaved three lives, three limbs Billsdaughter Yesterday #37

You should be proud. OAITW r.2.0 Tuesday #28

Yes we are very proud. Billsdaughter Yesterday #38

Seems to me Russia has been targeting civilians Easterncedar Tuesday #14

Ukraine is going to need to be able to recapture land. Renew Deal Tuesday #15

95% of what? WarGamer Tuesday #16

Yeah. I mean - what the heck does that actually MEAN .. ? stopdiggin Tuesday #19

Ukrainian solders credit with 5% of Russian casualties in the last month. Drones - 95% OAITW r.2.0 Yesterday #32

I know it's been hard to watch, but I'm here for support if needed. BannonsLiver 4 hrs ago #42

They have taken the German Leopard tanks and made them killing machines Historic NY Tuesday #20

Saw that today. Perfect set-up. I assume....but the poor bastards in the T-90 OAITW r.2.0 Yesterday #33

There's some pretty brutal videos on Reddit. Ukraine ain't playing around. Swede Tuesday #24

Putin should just do the honorable thing... Dethhogan Tuesday #26

Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote 23 hrs ago #39

What an odd way to phrase your title. Did you accidentally say Ukraine, niyad Tuesday #29

Should have been clearer. Russian soldiers dying in the meatgrinder. OAITW r.2.0 Yesterday #34

Is there a link to those numbers? SleeplessinSoCal Tuesday #30

I was about to say... Wednesdays Yesterday #36

Russia is apparently suffering more casualties per month in Ukraine Disaffected Yesterday #35

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave 23 hrs ago #40

Yes, that would be a silver lining alright if Disaffected 22 hrs ago #41