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12. specious
Mon Apr 27, 2026, 12:55 AM
Monday

...and you should know it.

It's become childish and self-defeating, like many of the same people insisted their bullshit in the last presidential election was more important than achieving a Democratic majority. they just couldn't keep themselves from tearing down the presidency with their projections; never accounting for how they would get anything they claimed they wanted without a Democratic majority.

Just tear the president down; tear his successor down; all with this childish insistence they be able to criticize the party and try to intimidate the rest of us from that necessary support.

It's all about what they want. And we let this Israel bullshit dominate the forum right before the election. Unprecedented here, but it spilled out as hatred of sitting Democrats. And poeople acted surprised Democrats didn't show up; and the critics just dug in after their cynical deed, blaming people who'd already, repeatedly, FOUGHT AND WON AGAINST ACTUAL REPUBLICANS.

Curious to have these strident calls to dismantle BOTH leaderships at the point where they're likely to get the power and authority to act as people claim they want them to.

All critics have done is advantage their opposition off of the ascendance of republicans as if they can't find an inch of room to support our party leaders.

Both of them fought successfully to attach the health care cuts, and the rising health insurance costs to Americans to the opposition, highlighting republicans refusal to extend the ACA subsidies.

Were YOU fighting and advocating along with them for my and others health care?

Both of them fought successfully to strip DHS funding from the republican budget, organizing their respective memberships to stand firm against funding the murderous and abusive agency.

Were you fighting alongside of them as they defended the thousands of people like me in the country who this government has targeted with their mass deportation scheme?

If not, why not?

I daresay, neither of them have had the notion to attack their own membership and supporters, as Fetterman has,, but rather, have focused their political energy on fighting republicans. Their critics purporting to be speaking for the party, not nearly as much.

Yeah, careful with that permission structure critics have grown accustomed to promoting and building before key elections that encourage people away from supporting Democrats.

That's not what Fetterman is doing here, is it? He's not supporting Democrats, he's attacking us, and openly providing aid and comfort to Trump and the republican agenda.

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It's way past the time to defend that guy just because he used to be Klarkashton Sunday #1
When is the next time to vote him out? Melon Sunday #2
2028 DinahMoeHum Sunday #3
Of Course Fetterman Does... he wouldn't Cha Monday #4
I think he needs to... 2naSalit Monday #5
I love Malcolm Kenyatta. Too bad folks from PA could not see that he would have been the better choice tulipsandroses Monday #6
Kenyatta could run again, couldn't he? calimary Monday #16
be careful malcolm there are dems who say we should not be critical of other dems nt msongs Monday #7
specious bigtree Monday #12
I agree about Fetterman. ShazzieB Monday #15
Truth. betsuni Monday #18
Manchin voted with the party 87.9% of time, Fetterman votes with the party 91% of the time. Emile Monday #29
"(M)any of the same people insisted their bullshit in the last presidential election Rob H. Monday #38
did they get what you wanted out of this republican majority? bigtree Monday #39
MY question was, to what specific bullshit are you referring? Rob H. Tuesday #40
I use the term as lightly as I could bigtree Tuesday #43
I don't think of Fetterman as a Dem anymore. ShazzieB Monday #13
I didn't criticize Manchin. He was from W VA. He did what he did to stay afloat. LeftInTX Monday #17
Agreed on all counts. ShazzieB Monday #19
Don't think anyone got in trouble for being critical of Manchin or Sinema standingtall Monday #28
Agree. And we can do better than Fetterman. LeftInTX Monday #32
"functionally a republican" is right! ShazzieB Monday #36
I figure a lotta people say a lotta things. Torchlight Tuesday #42
He has proved one thing timms139 Monday #8
Yeah he's something Figarosmom Monday #9
It's Joe Hudly Monday #10
I know many Reichwing fuckheads who praise Fetterman for "coming to his senses"q Orrex Monday #11
I wish him everything he deserves. niyad Monday #21
He's a DINO. BidenRocks Monday #14
What are the odds for a second, far more serious stroke? niyad Monday #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Monday #22
He CLEARLY underscored the substance in THIS quote: hlthe2b Monday #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Monday #25
Sure... You wouldn't want DEAR LEADER to be criticized after all... hlthe2b Monday #26
Fetterman is malaise Monday #23
;-{) TURNCOAT Goonch Monday #27
I live in Pittsburgh and I voted for Fetterman in 2022, I even donated to his campaign FakeNoose Monday #30
Then Gov Shapiro can replace him! However, I seriously doubt that he will resign. LeftInTX Monday #33
I hope Gov. Shapiro finds a way to convince him to step down FakeNoose Monday #35
From what he done while in office he ran as doc03 Monday #31
Why would Fetterman even support that? I bet numerous GOP senators privately don't support that ballroom. LeftInTX Monday #34
With the upcoming election, we need to be very, very careful Grim Chieftain Monday #37
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