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Orrex

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66. That's a false analogy and an attempted smear by false association

Mon Apr 27, 2026, 08:31 PM

Apr 27

Not surprising, TBH.

The cheerleaders are saying "we have a series of facts and purported facts, given to us as part of The Official Story. Even though The Official Story has a number of holes and fails to address reasonable objections, we must believe The Official Story and attack anyone who doesn't swallow it as eagerly and as uncritically as we do."

The more skeptical among us, in stark contrast, say "The Official Story is full of holes, and in many ways it is directly at odds with observable reality. Therefore we question it, notwithstanding the personal attacks by The Cheerleaders."

clearly you aren't open to changing your mind because your gut feeling is all that matters.

I LOVE statements like that--they're so openly condescending that one can't help laughing in the face of whoever thought it a good idea to post it. It's a gaslighting attempt at argument by fiat, easily recognized for what it is.

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Were the assassination attempts against Gerald Ford faked/staged? [View all] Fiendish Thingy Apr 26 OP

I have no proof. I just don't think they were staged. It was a very different time and Ford was a very different 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 26 #1

But without proof they weren't staged, how can we be sure? Fiendish Thingy Apr 26 #5

All you can do is give it your best guess based on circumstances/people involved. 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 26 #6

But guessing isn't the path to obtaining the truth Fiendish Thingy Apr 26 #8

Like I'm in any position to obtain "the truth"? I'm not. But I can speculate like hell if I want to. 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 27 #16

Rampant speculation only makes the search for the truth more difficult Fiendish Thingy Apr 27 #23

When it comes to the Trump administration? They deserve whatever speculation they get. Fuck 'em! 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 27 #49

Rampant speculation does little to harm Trimp Fiendish Thingy Apr 27 #50

That is speculation too. 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 27 #55

It is evidence based fact Fiendish Thingy Apr 27 #58

"which actually advances Trump's agenda" 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 27 #61

Which is where this administration differs from you. Hey Joe Apr 27 #56

Apples and onions. kacekwl Apr 27 #65

no MAGA with high tech then msongs Apr 26 #2

What kind of technology could be used now to fake an assassination that wasn't available in the 70's? Fiendish Thingy Apr 26 #4

LOL seriously? Orrex Apr 27 #48

Ford didn't grift from them..LOL LeftInTX Apr 26 #3

Doesn't mean the ones on Trump edhopper Apr 26 #7

Of course, there is no proof they *were* staged Fiendish Thingy Apr 26 #10

Was Gerald Ford a psychopath who literally never told the truth in his life? Was Ford Scrivener7 Apr 26 #9

It's weird that these posts about Ford and Kirk are a thing. BannonsLiver Apr 26 #14

I don't think the dinner incident was either. The ss didn't Scrivener7 Apr 27 #15

I dont remember Ford inciting an insurrection either mb40 Apr 27 #45

Gerald Ford was not a pathological liar Walleye Apr 26 #11

He was on the Warren commission Fiendish Thingy Apr 26 #12

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT--1975, Attempt #2. 1976, HOUSE SELECT ColoringFool Apr 27 #18

See?!? I was right! Fiendish Thingy Apr 27 #24

I get your point. But there is a difference between a pathological liar and an ordinary liar. Walleye Apr 27 #53

Well, 20 "No" votes, and still no proof that the attempts on Ford's life *werent* staged. Fiendish Thingy Apr 26 #13

Do You Live In An Either-Or World? Is Every Action From The Same Cause To You? I Demand..... ColoringFool Apr 27 #17

The cheerleaders don't need proof when they have The Official Story to cling to Orrex Apr 27 #19

Yes, I get it. I'm not of their ilk. But the tone of the OP bugs me. ColoringFool Apr 27 #20

Same; I agree with you. Orrex Apr 27 #21

And this isn't the first topic where that shtick has been applied and a position has been defended Scrivener7 Apr 27 #64

When you realize that's exactly what conspiracy theorists do, it's going to be awkward EdmondDantes_ Apr 27 #31

Well, thankfully that doesn't apply to the Butler "assassination attempt" Orrex Apr 27 #35

Sure it doesn't EdmondDantes_ Apr 27 #44

Remember Stephen Colbert making fun of the Right for "truthiness"? Sympthsical Apr 27 #60

That's a false analogy and an attempted smear by false association Orrex Apr 27 #66

That is precisely my point Fiendish Thingy Apr 27 #25

Meanwhile the cheerleaders uncritically accept every claim made by the Trump adminstration Orrex Apr 27 #30

Would Trump allow others to die for his own advancement? Orrex Apr 27 #22

Was the moon landing faked? MichMan Apr 27 #26

What do you think? Fiendish Thingy Apr 27 #28

Trump said that only consequential presidents (like himself) are subject to assassination attempts, Ocelot II Apr 27 #27

See, you get it... Fiendish Thingy Apr 27 #29

Nope Farmer-Rick Apr 27 #32

Wait, WHAAAT?!? Fiendish Thingy Apr 27 #36

That's a might large brush Farmer-Rick Apr 27 #40

Not everyone Fiendish Thingy Apr 27 #42

Gerald Ford was staged. usonian Apr 27 #33

Trump could never pull off "Puttin' On The Ritz". Fiendish Thingy Apr 27 #37

Putin on the Ritz! usonian Apr 27 #47

If only there were a little more sarcasm themaguffin Apr 27 #34

A lack of a moral compass does not guarantee success Fiendish Thingy Apr 27 #38

indeed themaguffin Apr 27 #39

Different time......., different president, different congress, delisen Apr 27 #41

You forgot different standards for judging truth and measuring reality Fiendish Thingy Apr 27 #43

I don't remember. I'm old. CTyankee Apr 27 #46

Although it's not the question, I think of Trump as the most likely President to stage a fake scene of RoeVWade Apr 27 #51

How about JFK's assassination? sop Apr 27 #52

Occam's Razor. nt scipan Apr 27 #54

Indeed Fiendish Thingy Apr 27 #57

squeaky fromm still lives and walks free rampartd Apr 27 #59

No EnergizedLib Apr 27 #62

For you, OP MorbidButterflyTat Apr 27 #63