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In reply to the discussion: Hillary - Here are the facts: People have always had and will always have abortions in all 50 states. [View all]ShazzieB
(22,918 posts)23. Allow me to recommend a book about that!
The title is The Worst of Times, and the author is Patricia G. Miller. It was published in 1993 and has been out of print for a while now, but there are still used copies floating around that can easily be found online wherever used books are sold. I highly recommend it to anyone who wants to know more about what abortion was like in this country pre-Roe.
This book is not for the faint of heart; there are stories in it that will curl your hair. But this information has never been more vitally important than it is now.
From the jacket blurb:
All the oceans of verbiage and tons of newsprint on the subject of abortion boil down to one simple question. That question is not whether we will have abortions but what kind of abortions we will have. It is a question framed in stark human terms in Patricia Miller's The Worst of Times, which introduces us to dozens of ordinary Americans who have had firsthand experience with illegal abortion: women who survived the pain, humiliation, shame, and terror; motherless children of women who died; doctors who treated the terrible consequences of botched abortions; the abortionists themselves - barbers, midwives, mechanics; and the cops, coroners, and DAs charged with upholding the law. Abortion is a complex issue, but it is not an issue that exists abstractly in the eyes of ethicists or theologians. It is an issue that exists in the flesh - in the flesh of women with complicated lives and large responsibilities and a whole web of personal, familial, and moral concerns. As The Worst of Times makes powerfully and painfully clear, it is a question that women must be allowed to answer for themselves.
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Hillary - Here are the facts: People have always had and will always have abortions in all 50 states. [View all]
Swede
May 15
OP
Only women are impacted by abortion or the lack of safe abortions. It's not a people thing.
Autumn
May 15
#4
I can assure you no man has ever had an abortion. Men may be a bystander in a woman's abortion
Autumn
May 15
#6
Having helped men and nonbinary people get abortions, I feel sorry that you live in such a narrow world.
WhiskeyGrinder
May 15
#9
Only human beings with x only chromosomes can create and carry babies
questionseverything
May 15
#26
Google says they would need a donated egg, if so my point would stand
questionseverything
May 16
#55
There is a documented study of a woman who had a normal pregnancy with her own eggs with that condition. So no.
WhiskeyGrinder
May 16
#57
You're still missing the point and it seems like you have not been in that situation
electron_blue
May 16
#62
I know many people who were happy to get an abortion and did not find it disruptive.
WhiskeyGrinder
May 15
#46
I am in my eighties. Abortion was never legal when I was single and birth control was hit or miss.
appleannie1
May 15
#12
i'm old enough to remember those days. fortunately never had to face that myself, but
mopinko
May 15
#24
Even the Bush family was pro-choice after a family friend died from a back-alley abortion.
OMGWTF
May 15
#29
Part of it's the economy, but it's more because the abortion pill protocol makes it easier to end a pregnancy,
WhiskeyGrinder
May 15
#16
But this is not about reality, it is about the control of women. Other methods have been used and have killed women.
efhmc
May 15
#18
We can do so much better than rusty coathanger abortions,..and then sepsis,....
magicarpet
May 15
#31
Yes, but only those who are in the upmost echelon should be able to have one.
OldBaldy1701E
May 16
#51