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Wiz Imp

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76. It appears there is a good chance This Will Hold is actually Russian state sponsored disinformation
Sat May 16, 2026, 02:19 PM
May 16
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However, we all know that Russians have been heavily involved in election interference since at least 2016. The FBI is still looking for several Russian military intelligence agents who have tried to hack election systems, and, more importantly, used social media to sow discord and distrust in the American election process. Investigative journalist Benn Jordan put out a report earlier this year indicating that the system is so pervasive and sophisticated that as many as one in three interactions on social media are actually with bot accounts.

The goal of military disinformation campaigns isn’t to directly sway an elections’ results, but rather make it impossible to trust anything at all that you read online and to make you feel helpless and apathetic to reality. I believe that This Will Hold and the Common Coalition fit the profile of an intelligence operation precisely because they have zero accountability. They promote knowingly fake election theories into the public sphere in order to sow confusion among people who have more reliable information.

This does not mean that everyone in the Common Coalition is a Russian asset, only but that the top of the coalition would be exactly that. At the very least they would be what the FSB calls a “useful idiot.”

At this point, their conspiracy theories are so popular that they drown out more nuanced analysis by Smart Elections and the Election Truth Alliance–both of which are groups that have transparent founders that you can vet directly.

Scott Carney is an investigative reporter and award winning author who has made it clear he is on the side of the people who question the results of the election. But when he calls out a fraudulent organization like "This will hold" because they are very clearly frauds and hurt the case of those crying "election interference", then we continue to see loads of people who "feel it in their bones" that the 2024 election was stolen refuse to accept the reality that the claims of "this will hold" are 100% bullshit.

Scott Carney continues to suppor the "Election Truth Alliance" which I believ is simply another grifting election denialist organization, but at least they are willing to go on record with their real identities and stand behind their claims.

Now some of my viewers will not want to hear what I’m reporting to day, but before you change the channel, I want to be extremely clear with where I stand on the possibility that someone did interfere with the 2024 election. I still think that it is absolutely possible. Trump and Elon Musk have both made multiple statements that they meddled in the election software. They’ve been telegraphing their disdain for honest elections for a decade. There are also statistical anomalies outlined by both SMART Elections and Election Truth Alliance (who have both appeared on this channel) that I still find convincing. But getting the facts right is important. This is a topic that is so centrally to the future of the country and the world that we have no other choice.

At this point, their conspiracy theories are so popular that they drown out more nuanced analysis by Smart Elections and the Election Truth Alliance–both of which are groups that have transparent founders that you can vet directly.

They’re successful because what they have to say is more extreme than everyone else. It’s a story as old as social media and algorithmic recommendations.

The last thing that I want to say before I go is that it’s sort of embarrassing to admit that I made a mistake in such a public format. I want to get things right the first time and every time before I put out a report. But unfortunately the reality is that EVERYONE makes errors from time to time. It’s an unavoidable part of the job.

If only the people here were as honest with themselves as Scott Carney....

"About "This Will Hold". They are legit,"


You know this how? Because they say so?


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They claimed:
Ex‑CIA whistleblower Adam Zarnowski alleges that in December 2024 the NSA secretly audited the friggin’ election and found Harris won by a landslide, but then buried it.

Reality:
There is no public or credible leak, no documents, no whistleblower chain of custody. NSA does cyber intel—not vote counting. No other sources back up this epic claim.


That sounds like the complete opposite of a "legit" organization.

Can anyone name one piece of real evidence they have presented that the election of "stolen"? I've not seen it yet.

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who else is attacking Trump's prosecutors, and the man who convicted the rioters Trump pardoned, released bigtree May 15 #1
Where are Merrick Garland and Lisa Monaco Today? gab13by13 May 15 #2
Garland delayed in prosecuting Trump after GOP tried to delay his nomination for a huge loss of time. GreenWave May 15 #4
Money, Power, Fascism -- The Octopus Kid Berwyn May 15 #3
and the Supreme Court who not only enabled Trump back into office bigtree May 15 #7
Garland did not stop the traitor nor his conspiracy. Kid Berwyn May 15 #20
charges were brought some 17 months before the election bigtree May 15 #22
In truth, it goes back to Dealey Plaza on 22 November 1963. Kid Berwyn May 15 #24
The Berwyn Book Encyclopedia yellow dahlia May 15 #64
The OCTOPUS in Dallas: Poppy involved in JFK Assassination Kid Berwyn May 16 #77
Thanks, Kid! yellow dahlia May 16 #78
Garland fell short for whatever reason and on that basis given the ramifications, was a colossal failure. Defending him KPN May 15 #29
no, the courts fell short, then the American people followed bigtree May 15 #36
Thanks for all the good information. Minds may not be changed, but facts will be out there. Joinfortmill May 16 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author Joinfortmill May 15 #40
Agreed. The moment he knew of stolen state secrets he should arrested him... returnee May 15 #49
the courts failed us bigtree May 15 #50
As I understand it... returnee May 16 #66
The government brings the cases before the grand jury questionseverything May 17 #82
counterpunch was basically a Russian tool during the 2016 election bigtree May 15 #12
CounterPunch sucks most when they publish an article I don't agree with. Kid Berwyn May 15 #21
Alisa Valdes-Rodriguez is doing her courageous part with the Epstein horrors on her substack. Bumbles May 15 #5
If Merrick Garland is really "one of them" then why wasn't he approved for SCOTUS? FakeNoose May 15 #6
As Is Your Prerogative. But Don't Think You KNOW Garland...... ColoringFool May 15 #9
most people who pretend he's some double agent don't know anything about the actual prosecution bigtree May 15 #11
What became of those prosecutions? CivicGrief May 15 #30
instead of just being trifled with this bigtree May 15 #35
Ha! Future prosecutions. CivicGrief May 15 #41
what's sad is the literal surrender from people claiming to be so concerned with prosecuting Trump bigtree May 15 #47
If Jack Smith ever comes forward and says that Merrick Garland is actually "corrupt" and "in with them" FakeNoose May 15 #53
Garland hate guarantees clicks MorbidButterflyTat May 15 #33
Republicans prevented Garland Mad_Machine76 May 15 #62
That's because Garland is not (and never was) one of them FakeNoose May 16 #74
I HAVE SAID MOST OF THIS, EVEN BCCI. AND THEN THE "WOOO! TINHAT!" COMMENTS...... ColoringFool May 15 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree May 15 #10
To people like Thiel, Musk, and their employees manipulating the data to get their and the Powers That Be .. Botany May 15 #13
Don't forget the bomb threats karin_sj May 15 #52
I've been saying the same thing for years. Irish_Dem May 15 #18
The BCCI-CIA Connection: Just How Far Did It Go? Kid Berwyn May 22 #84
The Bush Crime Family had tentacles everywhere. Irish_Dem May 22 #85
May I suggest lonely bird May 15 #14
So glad that he prioritized avoiding the appearance of a political agenda Orrex May 15 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m May 16 #67
The Garland Society folks don't like this one bit. BannonsLiver May 15 #16
Garland society folks are pro prosecution of Trump bigtree May 15 #17
Bahahaha BannonsLiver May 15 #25
no doubt the Anti-Trump Prosecution society exists bigtree May 15 #37
Epstein class oligarchs irisblue May 15 #19
😬 Floyd R. Turbo May 15 #23
Bookmarking for later reading. Epstein-town? CoopersDad May 15 #26
Maybe that's why it always seems like 1 step forward 2 steps back bucolic_frolic May 15 #27
Well, one thing cannot be denied, Garland was an Obama SCOTUS choice. Joinfortmill May 15 #28
True. My understanding was he selected Garland as someone the R Senate would surely approve -- part of his "team of KPN May 15 #31
Great post/thread Botany, even if in small or even large part it is theory. Theory is what leads to finding facts and KPN May 15 #32
All I know is, Trump never talks about Garland nor does he seek revenge against him thebigidea May 15 #34
you have to be kidding bigtree May 15 #38
I see you graduated to Trump Truth Social posts CivicGrief May 15 #42
this is specious bigtree May 15 #45
It's a false claim to imply Trump is going after Garland in the courts like he is everyone else thebigidea May 15 #57
not yet bigtree May 15 #59
It's possible that Donald is AFRAID of Garland, with good reason I might add. Joinfortmill May 16 #70
Is "Thiswillhold" the QAnon of the left? chowder66 May 15 #39
It is BlueAnon. It pushes CT crackpottery that repeatededly has been debunked, yet it persists. Celerity May 15 #43
Yes. mr715 May 15 #56
I love history. I love mysteries. I love taking things... littlemissmartypants May 15 #44
Knowledge is good Botany May 15 #46
This thing, I call it the evil of psychopaths, has existed for all time. ... littlemissmartypants May 15 #48
The best way out of our current predicament is arresting the evil doers questionseverything May 17 #83
by the way, the substack is conspiratorial claptrap bigtree May 15 #51
It appears there is a good chance This Will Hold is actually Russian state sponsored disinformation Wiz Imp May 16 #76
It is difficult to have useful discussions of this type of material, because... TygrBright May 15 #54
You mean we should be a.... reACTIONary May 15 #65
Untangling the Octopus Kid Berwyn May 15 #55
who is this new poster, and what expertise does he have for making these claims bigtree May 15 #60
To help explain how Epstein was protected since Reagan. Kid Berwyn May 16 #73
Duh , kid is octo... octo is kid , he's a long time duer and he is always sourced questionseverything May 17 #81
It's disgusting to see this kooky CT nonsense rise to the top of the Greatest Page Fiendish Thingy May 15 #58
Every bit of it is sourced and footnoted. Hardly kooky conspiracy theory. Botany May 16 #71
Thanks for sharing, Botany! That was an important read. It was jam packed. yellow dahlia May 15 #61
This is why I have become a misanthrope. BigmanPigman May 15 #63
Garland was blueknight73 May 16 #69
a tragic mistake themaguffin May 16 #75
Well, there's this. It seems that Merrick Garland was NOT popular with the Federalist Society Joinfortmill May 16 #72
Eaton Corporation LessAspin May 16 #79
And in 2021 Eaton bought Tripp Lite and that allowed the placement of firmware patches onto the Botany May 17 #80
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