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SpankMe

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12. Seems like an attractive option at first

Mon May 18, 2026, 11:00 AM

May 18

But, leaving the US because of Trump is like moving to Mars because of overcrowding on Earth.

So much has to be done to Mars to make it livable that it's easier to try and fix our problems on Earth.

Most other countries with similar freedoms and qualities of life to the US are hard to get into for the long term. The US has (until Trump, anyway) a generally easier path to citizenship than these other countries.

When people were fleeing genicodes and literal daily threats to their lives, they could come to America. But as Americans, there's really nowhere else for us to go. This is it. This is the top. The end of the line. There is no more. At this point, we have to stay and fight.

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Americans are leaving the U.S. in record numbers and spending hundreds to learn how to do it - CNBC [View all] BlueWavePsych May 18 OP

I think millions of others would if they could Johnny2X2X May 18 #1

Conference guests paid between roughly $500 to $1,000 for tickets to the weekend's events RetiredParatrooper May 18 #2

I have no use for this n/t Ziggy Beans May 18 #3

Didn't need a conference. I did my.own research. sinkingfeeling May 18 #4

I Have a Better Idea Mr.Bee May 18 #5

We need to stay and fight Easterncedar May 18 #6

History Cirsium May 18 #23

Indeed Easterncedar May 18 #24

We are so close to prevailing, though nuxvomica May 18 #25

Yep. mn9driver May 18 #7

My grandparents knew when it was time to go mountain grammy May 18 #8

my grandparents came here BonnieJW May 18 #16

My uncle escaped Russia.. he was 6 mountain grammy May 18 #18

"Spending hundreds" Prairie Gates May 18 #9

Wonder what the demographics are of those leaving? Wounded Bear May 18 #10

My daughter is leaving in August AverageOldGuy May 18 #11

Seems like an attractive option at first SpankMe May 18 #12

By many accounts, the US is one of the top 5 hardest places to obtain citizenship. Ms. Toad May 18 #20

The Slow Boiling of Frogs 2na fisherman May 18 #13

Well said misanthrope May 18 #17

I did it already sdfernando May 18 #14

Is the US government still letting citizens escape? Farmer-Rick May 18 #15

That cartoon says it all..a dark time it is. Passages May 18 #19

It is unlikely I'll leave anytime soon - Ms. Toad May 18 #21

Keep you passport current pfitz59 May 18 #22

Good advice Old Crank Tuesday #29

My wife rambler_american May 18 #26

My mother was born in Canada. Her German parents settled there. BarbD May 18 #27

Wish I could leave I_UndergroundPanther May 18 #28

We left pre T I. Old Crank Tuesday #30

For a quick overview of some country options Old Crank Tuesday #31