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lostnfound

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Sun May 24, 2026, 12:23 PM Sunday

"An openly hostile relationship" -- how consumers are treated by major corporations [View all]

I am old as dirt, so I remember the days..
Once upon a time, rich people made their money off the poor and the middle classes, and so, for the first few decades of my life, corporate interactions felt like being courted by a polite but persistent suitor. They sent you freebies in the mail. Banks gave gifts like a toaster for opening an account. College kids could show up at a happy hour and dine on free hors d'oeuvres equating to a robust meal: ham-and-cream cheese rollups, buffalo wings, stuffed potato skins, deviled eggs, fruit, shrimp, etc. Dissatisfied customers could complain, get an human apology, a refund, and perhaps something more. It isn’t just that actual humans would talk to you; empowered humans would talk to you, trained with the prevailing idea that ‘customer is king’ or ‘the customer is always right’.

Not everyone had insurance — auto or medical — but if you did pay those premiums, they paid the bills. Those insurers had to protect their reputation. Companies catered to the average American because the average American had money.

Now, real good service is only for high-brow customers, while ordinary people get lip service or are treated as an annoyance. Usually one feels that one is in an openly hostile relationship with:
Insurance: claim denials, especially medical, generated by AI, and extremely complicated and intrusive rules. My gosh, they are the middle man, and they are EQUALLY HATED by both sides, octors and patients. (My recent example? I just got an annual checkup with an in-network doctor; the bloodwork was sent to a major nationwide lab but the claim was rejected because the lab is ‘not in the network’. I wonder how many layers of subcontracting am expected to monitor. Haha — what if the doctor sends it to a lab who sends it to another lab who charges for an outside delivery service that is ‘not in network’. Give it time and there will be day-of-week pricing and you will only be permitted to use Tuesday/Wednesday processing.)
Telecom: New customers get better deals, with introductory rates, while existing customers pay the most. Try to cancel or downgrade service, and you are on hold for a long time, answering a plethora of questions. This is so common it has a formal name “cancellation friction” and an informal name “roach motel” (you can check in but you can never check out).
Airlines: Strategy? Put upcharges on window or aisle or exit row seats, and make the back half of the plane as uncomfortable as possible to punish those who can’t pay more. Surveillance pricing means the algorithms know your history and use it against you. Refresh your search a few times and the price might go up, and the system knows you paid $500 last time so it won’t offer you the $300 fare offered to John Doe. Pay extra for a bag, sometimes even in the overhead bin.
Data companies Through ‘monetization’, customers are fodder, or manipulated as lab rats, or treated as organ donors to be harvested without permission. Harvest personal stories, photos, and opinions for resale. If they don’t like it, divert some of your cashflow into buying politicians, and write legislation that suits you.

Corporate lobbyists used to lie about tobacco or auto safety etc. to prevent regulation. Now, they don’t need to hide. One or two of these examples would be a mild annoyance. But in America, consumer harassment is constant.

Does it feel like a war zone as a consumer? Or just a hostile relationship? Does anyone ever feel like ‘customer is king’ anymore? If so, share your story.

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I am currently in a hate relationship UpInArms Sunday #1
Thank you for putting into words Susan Calvin Sunday #2
Reading the OP I found myself thinking the same. yardwork Sunday #9
We are... The Madcap Sunday #21
Almost every day Cirsium Sunday #3
True llmart Sunday #36
I have a lot to say about this Cirsium Sunday #53
No one should be surprised by this as major corps only care about money, not people sakabatou Sunday #4
Local companies versus major corporations -- a pleasant experience lostnfound Sunday #51
A large part of the blame is monopolization and deregulation - goals the (r)epugs have had for years erronis Sunday #5
Remember when we told how good deregulation would be for consumers? dflprincess Sunday #7
Started with Reagan llmart Sunday #37
The Republicans popsdenver 17 hrs ago #66
That was always a transparent lie misanthrope Sunday #54
What do we call "lip service" in 2026 Bluetus Sunday #6
Cancellation friction--I didn't know there was a word for it! mtngirl47 Sunday #8
Wow! Each one of those are horrible. It's almost as if they really don't want our business. erronis Sunday #14
That's somewhat typical durablend Sunday #22
That sounds exactly like my week has been! llmart Sunday #39
Are you sure that Medicare pmt situation vanlassie Sunday #57
Health Insurance Companies are the worst! RainCaster Sunday #10
Good way of saying what I have been feeling Sanity Claws Sunday #11
Defend, delay, defer and deny. multigraincracker Sunday #12
Bartenders at my regular bar treat me like a king, Dr. T Sunday #13
Currently fighting my new "corporate" mountain grammy Sunday #15
Back in the day . . . Bumbles Sunday #16
Yes, it was nice to experience some of that positive service lostnfound Sunday #62
Stockholders Rule. Every Last Penny, I Mean, Nickel Must Be..... ColoringFool Sunday #17
We just need to give them more tax cuts, so they can trickle it down all over us. IronLionZion Sunday #18
I used to have Verizon as my family mobile phone provider, but switched to T-Mobile several years ago. patphil Sunday #19
Excellent OP! gulliver Sunday #20
Endless advertising wastes our time, too lostnfound Sunday #33
My friend canceled Verizon for an Xfinity deal and it was a nightmare. live love laugh Sunday #23
Telecom companies are required to let you port your number Pinback Sunday #29
Thanks very good info. live love laugh Sunday #31
I switched my car insurance from AAA to Acrisure. Initech Sunday #43
I think that's because the American People are treated as customers or consumers, not clients, Uncle Joe Sunday #24
I'd add that today, the American People are no longer even customers/consumers, but only data producers for data ancianita 16 hrs ago #67
American late stage, tech-powered hypercapitalism is the biggest wealth extraction and transfer scheme in human history. Celerity Sunday #25
The 'customer' was never 'king'. They just made it seem that way. OldBaldy1701E Sunday #26
Veterans don't count Puppyjive Sunday #27
There's a whole term for this: HappyLarge Sunday #28
It's that way because REPUBLICANS mostly have made it that way, by B.See Sunday #30
I got an email about a class action lawsuit llmart Sunday #40
And if you want to read about it in-depth... debsy Sunday #32
Costco and Chewy have fantastic customer relations, in my experience. MoonlightHillFarm Sunday #34
Costco rules! I buy from them as often as possible lostnfound Sunday #38
I have been very happy with Costco Wifes husband Sunday #41
I frequently go to Costco for my whole bean coffee needs. Crowman2009 Sunday #45
I totally agree with everything you say... it's what I've been saying now for years, slightlv Sunday #35
On my American flight home yesterday, they took out the backseat entertainment. Initech Sunday #42
OMG that is an EXCELLENT slogan. "Treat us like humans not like walking dollar signs"!!! lostnfound Sunday #49
Exactly! Initech Sunday #50
Me: Yeah, but I want to pay you money! Aussie105 Sunday #44
Many deceptions in those offers are hard to spot or quantify at first lostnfound Sunday #59
Now that we have a corrupt system of justice, it will only get worse mdbl Sunday #46
Fuck Republic Services with the red-hot cock of Satan! hatrack Sunday #47
The title .... 😂😂😂😂😂😂 live love laugh Yesterday #63
True. Excellent post. It's a jungle out there. Joinfortmill Sunday #48
On the other hand- Here's a wall filled with compliments from customers of my independent hardware store, posted on Yelp NBachers Sunday #52
Nice! We need some stronger ways to identify the good ones -- lostnfound Sunday #58
Our economy has shifted to a wealth extraction mode. unblock Sunday #55
Rumpelstiltskin! (You've named the problem quite clearly / accurately.) lostnfound Sunday #56
It's as if Armageddon and the Final Days of Planet Earth are anticipated . . . Aussie105 Sunday #61
I was thinking about issues that predate today's difficulty reaching a human... CBHagman Sunday #60
It's called "Enshitification" Hieronymus Phact Yesterday #64
The truth is corporations are Glaisne 21 hrs ago #65
After fourteen years practicing medicine for publicly funded community health clinics, Aristus 16 hrs ago #68
Wow that. Is disturbing. Nt lostnfound 5 hrs ago #69
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