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dalton99a

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Tue Jun 16, 2026, 09:01 AM Jun 16

President Trump Lost This War [View all]

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/15/opinion/-trump-lost-war-iran.html


By The Editorial Board

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Iran’s hard-line government remains in place. The specifics of the nuclear agreement will apparently be negotiated over the next two months, but the terms seem likely to resemble those of a 2015 deal that President Barack Obama negotiated and that Mr. Trump canceled in 2018. He described the Obama agreement as the “worst deal ever” and said it put Iran on “a route to a nuclear weapon.” He criticized it for failing to force Iran to stop supporting terrorist groups like Hamas and Hezbollah and for loosening economic sanctions. Yet his destructive war seems likely to leave him with a similar deal.

His biggest achievement in the cease-fire framework is the expected reopening of the Strait of Hormuz to global shipping traffic, which will eventually reduce the prices of energy and other goods. That, of course, is merely a reversion to the prewar status quo. Iran closed the strait in retaliation, to damage the global economy and increase political pressure on the United States. The move worked, and Iran’s leaders now understand that they hold a powerful economic weapon.

On balance, Iran emerges the strategic winner of the four-month war. It did suffer substantial losses, including much of its navy, air force, military-industrial capacity and political leadership, including Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the supreme leader, who was killed on the war’s first day. With the war ending, however, Iran’s leadership can begin rebuilding.

The United States, for its part, looks weaker in the eyes of the world. The American military has shown itself unable to quash a much smaller opponent even as it burned through many of its long-range precision missiles and interceptors. The outcome damages this country’s ability to deter other potential adversaries. To begin to repair the damage, the United States would be wise to mend alliances in Europe, the Middle East and Asia that have been frayed by the war’s military and economic effects. The Pentagon will also need to modernize and prepare for the wars of the future. Neither is likely to happen under President Trump.

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President Trump Lost This War [View all] dalton99a Jun 16 OP
Trump is a loser PJMcK Jun 16 #1
One million % correct. It is really that simple. chicoescuela Jun 16 #2
He thought he was going to invade a shithole country and take their oil Mr.Bee Jun 16 #22
Big Time Ray Bruns Jun 16 #24
Fake, phony, fraud, charlatan, loser. Dulcinea Jun 16 #28
The War was Rigged! Prairie Gates Jun 16 #3
Iran didn't know Trump is the King of the Universe and they were supposed to bow Attilatheblond Jun 16 #33
They forgot about Epstein. Glad they mentioned Israel. Kid Berwyn Jun 16 #4
And what the Orange Dipshit did has strengthened them. YodaMom2 Jun 16 #14
Thousands if not tens of thousands of dead Iranian protesters... Kid Berwyn Jun 16 #19
China probably feels they have a much freer hand in Taiwan after this. SamuelAdams Jun 16 #5
That's a serious ramification. Martin68 Jun 16 #9
Maybe They'll modrepub Jun 16 #23
If a man bankrupt's two casinos, how can you expect him to do something like "win a war" ? ashredux Jun 16 #6
Three jmowreader Jun 16 #16
Dismal. calimary Jun 16 #38
What about Rebl2 Jun 16 #7
The full terms of the deal are still unknown so the NYT left them out of the Editorial. maxsolomon Jun 16 #17
Archived usonian Jun 16 #8
+1 dalton99a Jun 16 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Jun 16 #21
Obama's deal had Iran give up 97% of its enriched uranium and allow inspection of its nuclear facilities Martin Eden Jun 16 #10
JCPOA was 159 pages. Apparently JV Vance said this is a page and a half underpants Jun 16 #27
Regarding nukes, it's probably trust WITHOUT verification Martin Eden Jun 16 #30
All in the name of distraction from Epstein Bristlecone Jun 16 #11
HEY, nyt. YOU helped create this monster, but thank you for niyad Jun 16 #12
Not to mention Mblaze Jun 16 #13
I wish every media person and politician Mblaze Jun 16 #15
Although that is true, in the final years when the US karynnj Jun 16 #29
Thanks 😀 Mblaze Jun 16 #36
In other news, the ocean is wet and tree leaves are green in June. NNadir Jun 16 #18
Nope America lost this war IbogaProject Jun 16 #25
None of this would'be happened under President Kamala Harris and a Democratic Administration NBachers Jun 16 #26
But Kamala Harris Laughed Funny. Ray Bruns Jun 16 #32
Infuriating, isn't it! calimary Jun 16 #39
"To begin to repair the damage, the United States would be wise to mend alliances in Europe, the Middle East and Asia" Ray Bruns Jun 16 #31
ETTD, except for Iran. City Lights Jun 16 #34
The Loser Who Thinks He's A Winner VBNMW_Realist Jun 16 #35
Trump is a no talent guy. Emile Jun 16 #37
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