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37. This basic fact is known by billionaires.

Thu Jun 25, 2026, 11:01 AM

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They are spending millions of dollars on propaganda designed to demonize the Democratic Party and get Democrats to waste their votes or not vote at all.

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Democratic Socialists or main stream Dems. We've been electing "main streamers" for over 50 years and for [View all] 3Hotdogs Jun 25 OP

Repubics know how to energize their base The Wizard Jun 25 #1

No political party is perfect................... Lovie777 Jun 25 #2

Some Democrats are definately not comfortable with Progressive Democrats ihaveaquestion Jun 25 #4

What do you mean by "Slapped Around"? It seems the party moved left. 33taw Jun 25 #22

no, it means the voters moved the party left. ret5hd Jun 25 #29

Isn't that what always happens? 33taw Jun 25 #33

well, maybe...just maybe... ret5hd Jun 25 #34

Agree. 33taw Jun 25 #48

Centrist Democrat incumbents got beat. The voters have always leaned left of center. ihaveaquestion Jun 25 #30

The Democratic party is still in the middle of the road, Democratic voters have passed them up . Autumn Jun 25 #58

I am supporting a Progressive House candidate in my Congressional district. wnylib Jun 25 #67

I'm with you, Ihaveaquestion. Another Liberal Democrat here who is ready BComplex Jun 25 #70

I agree. Sure we got the ACA but then...middle of the road types including Demsrule86 Jun 25 #74

I WAS that guy ("be realistic; think pragmatically"), and I'm still that guy when it comes to the General and voting for Grown2Hate Jun 25 #82

Yesterday was incredibly stupid creeksneakers2 Jun 26 #92

Calling progressives "looney" sure doesn't help us unite luv2fly Jun 26 #93

Interesting because SocialDemocrat61 Jun 26 #100

Talking nice to them doesn't work creeksneakers2 Jun 26 #119

Getting called on an insult and then doubling down isn't a good look luv2fly Jun 26 #133

No, they won't. It's a "Boy Cried Wolf" scenario defined TVguyCards Jun 26 #104

To the best of my knowledge, Obama never self-identified as a Communist... QueerDuck Jun 26 #108

Correct TVguyCards Jun 26 #111

Their insults and accusations had no teeth, and no plausibility. The absurdity allowed them to be easily dismissed... QueerDuck Jun 26 #112

I'll have to disagree TVguyCards Jun 26 #130

LOL! Well, I love the enthusiasm, but... QueerDuck Jun 26 #132

I'm serious, Google it TVguyCards Jun 27 #135

Thanks for sharing the link! It's an interesting read... QueerDuck Jun 27 #137

Berne is popular in VT creeksneakers2 Jun 27 #134

He's literally the most popular TVguyCards Jun 27 #136

Narrowing it to "active politicians" definitely helps his numbers... QueerDuck Jun 27 #138

Forward we go XD TVguyCards Tuesday #140

I found something that put him at #3 but the numbers they used didn't match everything else. creeksneakers2 Jun 27 #139

I like Bernie but he has been in the Senate for decades and has not accomplished travelingthrulife Tuesday #141

I really disagree here a lot TVguyCards Tuesday #143

Now that there are actual socialists they'll have evidence. creeksneakers2 Jun 26 #125

Mainstream Dems talk... OhioBack2Blue Jun 25 #3

100% Blue Full Moon Jun 26 #102

Yeah, the ACA sucked huh? nt LexVegas Jun 25 #5

It would have been much better with single payer, medicare for all sboatcar Jun 25 #31

Insurance companies L-O-V-E-D it! AStern Jun 25 #46

Why was a public option left out when democrats passed it? Emile Jun 25 #69

It passed the House, couldn't pass in Senate because needed 60 votes and couldn't get them. betsuni Jun 25 #86

Excellent post of the facts, betsuni. sheshe2 Jun 26 #88

Republican playbook: 100% obstruction, Democrats without huge majorities like FDR, convince idiots to blame Dems. betsuni Jun 26 #98

So the public option was excluded from the Affordable Care Act (ACA) because Democrats lacked Emile Jun 26 #97

Everyone forgets our own Dem Sen. Max Baucus nixed it right out of the box... ms liberty Jun 26 #105

Excellent post of facts! Emile Jun 26 #106

Max Baucus hatrack Jun 26 #107

It kinda did Polybius Jun 26 #99

Your statement is incorrect. Have you forgotten the ADA, ACA, the Family and sinkingfeeling Jun 25 #6

BUt how much did we really gain? if Mango and crew can dismantle JT45242 Jun 25 #16

The first thing we need to do is get rid of the Senister Six on the Court. BComplex Jun 25 #71

When Dems control both houses of Congress and the presidency, they have accomplished quite a bit Martin Eden Jun 25 #7

Our system needs major revamping. returnee Jun 25 #8

Because most Dems do not trust DSA types and a lot of DSA's are unrealistic about how politics works. LymphocyteLover Jun 25 #10

We laughed at Maggots and called them unrealistic in '16. 3Hotdogs Jun 25 #12

Is that supposed to give me confidence about electing DSA types? LymphocyteLover Jun 25 #19

Billionaires have a lot of power. yardwork Jun 25 #28

and yet the dem socialists seem to be winning actual elections moonshinegnomie Jun 25 #17

in NYC LymphocyteLover Jun 25 #20

A Muslim Socialist won in a city that has the biggest Jewish population in the world TVguyCards Jun 25 #61

Dem Socialists/progressives have run in recent years and not done that great in rural areas but I've nothing against the LymphocyteLover Jun 25 #65

I honestly don't recall any who have TVguyCards Jun 25 #66

In very liberal NYC mcar Jun 25 #42

"DSA types" ? Jilly_in_VA Jun 25 #26

"DSA types" equals New Deal Democrats AStern Jun 25 #59

LymphocyteLover Makes some Good Points. nt. Cha Jun 25 #63

By DSA-type I am referring to DSA people but also certain leftists and progressive Dems that may not be officially with LymphocyteLover Jun 26 #120

It's exactly the non-"DSA types"... returnee Jun 25 #54

I don't have any huge problem with DSA policy-wise, as long as they vote for Dems in the general election, LymphocyteLover Jun 26 #121

There's too many Stacey Grove Tuesday #142

I'll take an Eisenhower repub... returnee Tuesday #144

Why do you think that is? TVguyCards Jun 25 #60

See these policies LymphocyteLover Jun 26 #122

"DSA types" as you call them are just following what they do in European BComplex Jun 25 #73

and I'm not against that at all! Still they are not Democrats and they do create division in the Dem party. LymphocyteLover Jun 26 #123

Are you not following what's happening? TransitJohn Jun 26 #114

I agree most Democrats like a lot of the progressive social policies that DSA promotes. I do too. LymphocyteLover Jun 26 #124

this is BS, though I don't know exactly what you mean by "mainstreamers" LymphocyteLover Jun 25 #9

Centrists, establishment, moderate, status quo, neoliberal, mainstreamer. Means capitalism. Capitalism bad. betsuni Jun 25 #81

The reich-wing mass media machine has demonized anything for the public good as "socialism." Mysterian Jun 25 #11

I caught a few minutes of The Five on Fox last night just to see the reaction to NY. For these people "socialism" OGBuzz Jun 25 #15

The Democratic Party in disarray! crud Jun 25 #13

Fight referee? DFW Jun 25 #40

I am convinced that profit has been the... S/V Loner Jun 25 #14

Reminder: data shows that most voters who identify as "moderates" actually prefer progressive policies Fiendish Thingy Jun 25 #18

Socialists elected maliaSmith Jun 25 #21

So did I DFW Jun 25 #41

You are suggesting that Boo1 Jun 25 #23

Somehow you missed the ACA Progressive dog Jun 25 #24

You're skipping over a lot. SamuelAdams Jun 25 #25

I'm all in - traditional Democrat or Progressive Democrat - I'll be supporting them. n/t iluvtennis Jun 25 #27

That's the key. yardwork Jun 25 #32

Well said @yardwork. n/t iluvtennis Jun 25 #36

Thanks. yardwork Jun 25 #38

To Be Effective, Democrats Need to Be the Majority MineralMan Jun 25 #35

This basic fact is known by billionaires. yardwork Jun 25 #37

Well, that strategy appears to be working. MineralMan Jun 25 #39

Who are you electing in your House District? Quiet Em Jun 25 #43

Like Bartelby, "I would prefer not to." DFW Jun 25 #44

Can't we celebrate good things happening 1WorldHope Jun 25 #45

The Democratic Socialists actually have a higher approval rating than Congressional Democrats AZProgressive Jun 25 #47

We played this game on DU in 2016 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 25 #49

I logged off of DU at the beginning of that primary season AZProgressive Jun 25 #51

"Mainstream" democrats have made it so that I can afford health insurance (ACA). LudwigPastorius Jun 25 #50

Are you self employed, poor or a brown person? 1WorldHope Jun 25 #55

Indeed, I am self employed. LudwigPastorius Jun 25 #57

I was also self employed most of my working career. 1WorldHope Jun 25 #62

Uh the OP is point blank saying Democrats haven't accomplished anything since Medicare. BannonsLiver Jun 26 #116

I'll happily vote for either in a given election Torchlight Jun 25 #52

OK. No one can accomplish anything unless LeftInTX Jun 25 #53

All of us are democratic socialists to one degree or another (small d, small s), but MSM and pundits are wiggs Jun 25 #56

From Google AI EnergizedLib Jun 25 #64

Democratic Socialism vs Social Democracy thought crime Jun 25 #80

Main streamers. LizVerite Jun 25 #68

Manchin & Sinema are gone (thank God), but Fetterman is still there, voting with the GOP whenever he can. red dog 1 Jun 25 #72

Lets elect, smart, honest, and committed people. Period. Joinfortmill Jun 25 #75

I'm just not keen on people who call Joe Biden a "rapist". RandySF Jun 25 #76

Socialist Schmocalist. Centrist Schmentrist. FIGHT OLIGARCHY. usonian Jun 25 #77

. RandySF Jun 25 #78

So true, and makes one wonder just what some expect to accomplish by divisive posts like this OP blaming all the lostincalifornia Jun 25 #85

Still see idea that people are forced to vote for Republicans/3rd party because Democrats aren't progressive enough. betsuni Jun 26 #109

I think you analysis is on the mark. lostincalifornia Jun 26 #117

Democratic Socialists or main stream Dems. We've been electing "main streamers" for over 50 years and for warmfeet Jun 25 #79

Some might argue that the DSA gave us bush in 2000 thanks to Nader, trump in 2016 with the help of lostincalifornia Jun 25 #83

Some might argue that the democratic socialists kept getting yelled at to join the Democratic Party, and so they did. Iggo Jun 26 #89

Nina Turner, Sirota, Cornell West, Prof. Eddie George oasis Jun 26 #90

This is breaking into the open FINALLY Bluetus Jun 25 #84

Both! Iggo Jun 25 #87

More progressive lies creeksneakers2 Jun 26 #91

Those in our ranks who worked to derail our nominees in 2000 and 2016 DFW Jun 26 #95

Same fact-free myth that the Democratic Party has shifted to the right over the decades. Zero evidence. betsuni Jun 26 #94

Many good points herein. And while B.See Jun 26 #96

Why are we doing this? RandySF Jun 26 #101

While I personally am more aligned with DSA JBTaurus83 Jun 26 #103

I think it doesn't have to be one way or the other - why not have a diverse set of ideas? walkingman Jun 26 #110

Actually, We Have Failed to Do That in Two Recent, Crucial Elections. MineralMan Jun 26 #113

I'm for running candidates that fit their communities. BannonsLiver Jun 26 #115

ACA. But More To The Point: If You Think ANYONE, EVEN JESUS HIMSELF, Could Get Elected With..... ColoringFool Jun 26 #118

Way past time to tack left. marble falls Jun 26 #126

So the ACA has no benefit the average commoner? krawhitham Jun 26 #127

Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009 krawhitham Jun 26 #128

Since 1977 Dems have created 43,551,000 more jobs than GQP krawhitham Jun 26 #129

Not this again.... Etherealoc1 Jun 26 #131