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highplainsdem

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45. Generative AI tools are unethical because they're illegally trained on stolen intellectual property.

Sun Jun 28, 2026, 09:39 PM

Jun 28

They dumb users down, as studies have shown. They don't increase knowledge or enhance creativity - they offer a simulation of both. A pretense. A pretense filled with errors - hallucinations - unless the AI results are checked carefully and corrected.

One way teachers have been able to make it obvious that students are cheating with AI is to question them on the subject they supposedly learned about. The cheaters using AI are still ignorant, and can't remember much of what the AI generated for them.

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Professor denounces mass AI fraud on an exam at Brown University: 'Academic integrity is at risk' [View all] highplainsdem Jun 28 OP

Most enlightening information, thank you for bringing it here for us Attilatheblond Jun 28 #1

Who needs higher education when you can fake your way through life. nt ImNotGod Jun 28 #2

As expressed by a member of... 2naSalit Jun 28 #9

To someone.... SergeStorms Jun 28 #23

There is a reason med schools don't allow take-home exams dalton99a Jun 28 #3

I want to know which AI tool they were using RandomNumbers Jun 28 #4

Those AI models you mentioned were all illegally trained on stolen intellectual property. I'm sorry highplainsdem Jun 28 #10

Not necessarily in the case of how I use it for work. RandomNumbers Jun 28 #13

Cory Doctorow teaches us what AI can and cannot use, and why most of what AI uses is not stealing intellectual property. ancianita Jun 28 #31

I like Cory and often agree with him, and he'd sometimes repost my comments when I was still highplainsdem Jun 28 #34

And btw, Cory isn't in agreement with most creators of intellectual property on copyright: highplainsdem Jun 28 #35

probably cuz it's a narrow subject. mopinko Jun 28 #12

Narrow subjects aren't necessarily immune to the problem. cab67 Jun 28 #22

Clever prof! nt LAS14 Jun 28 #5

universities will take the money, thus prostituting their values by bending over for trump msongs Jun 28 #6

It's not necessarily a matter of politics. cab67 Jun 28 #25

And yet, certain DUers think this is just fine and we're yelling at clouds. Coventina Jun 28 #7

Certain DUers think using AI to cheat on exams if "just fine". Disaffected Jun 28 #15

thread from a few days ago Coventina Jun 28 #16

OK, I skimmed that thread and didn't see any posts Disaffected Jun 28 #18

I'm not going to call out specific people, as that is against DU TOS. Coventina Jun 28 #19

Sorry but I cannot draw inferences that are not there. Disaffected Jun 28 #20

Are you seriously making a case that coming into a thread about AI threats to Coventina Jun 28 #28

That's some serious goalpost moving there. Disaffected Jun 28 #29

This is sad and worrying. yardwork Jun 28 #8

it's a brilliant solution imho. mopinko Jun 28 #11

Yes Kaleva Jun 28 #14

I remember the dreaded individual oral exams administered by no-nonsense Jesuits at the end of each semester, sop Jun 28 #33

But they can't write cursive! Mossfern Jun 28 #38

Take home, closed book exams?? Disaffected Jun 28 #17

It's right on my syllabus. cab67 Jun 28 #21

This gets a bit murky but, Disaffected Jun 28 #27

wary. cab67 Jun 28 #30

Interesting and well put. Disaffected Jun 28 #36

If only.... SergeStorms Jun 28 #24

Just based on my reading history, El Pais is another fantastic non-US M$M outlet erronis Jun 28 #26

The only way to deal with this Matthew28 Jun 28 #32

I find it fascinating... kentuck Jun 28 #37

Older but wiser Mossfern Jun 28 #39

I think that the younger generations anciano Jun 28 #40

This is a problem. cab67 Jun 28 #41

See reply 42. highplainsdem Jun 28 #43

I guess you've missed the news stories about polls showing younger users have a lower opinion of AI highplainsdem Jun 28 #42

I think the appropriate and responsible use of AI anciano Jun 28 #44

Generative AI tools are unethical because they're illegally trained on stolen intellectual property. highplainsdem Jun 28 #45