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WSHazel

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25. You are citing Trump's census department for that net migration number

Thu Jul 2, 2026, 03:13 PM

Jul 2

The census is a completely unreliable source for several reasons: 1) Trump, 2) Most population projections are straight lines of about the last 5 to 10 years of whatever trend is being projected. That is never accurate, and is certainly not accurate for immigration. I think that immigration to the U.S. has fallen off a cliff, unless you think millions are coming to the U.S. to be arrested and abused by ICE agents. 3) Per most estimates of undocumented immigration, the total number in the U.S. got to a high of about 13 million in 2024. There has been massive deportation and self-deportation since then. I would not be surprised if this number is 11 million or even less by now, meaning a lot of people have left.

My number of net migration out is probably low.

Another problem with the total workers number is that the workforce is aging and projections typically underestimate how many older Americans leave the workforce.

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I follow the data closely Johnny2X2X Jul 2 #5

More and more, it looks like stagflation is becoming a reality. Wiz Imp Jul 2 #11

Low numbers, probably much lower............... Lovie777 Jul 2 #3

I remember when the right screamed about downward revisions to prior months' jobs numbers under Biden. LonePirate Jul 2 #4

NYT Headline foe jobs report fmdaddio Jul 2 #21

So now, through June, Trump has averaged +42,000 jobs per month Wiz Imp Jul 2 #6

103,000? Johnny2X2X Jul 2 #7

I used January 2024 to January 2025 Wiz Imp Jul 2 #9

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Winning! Raftergirl Jul 2 #10

What happened to all of those experts gab13by13 Jul 2 #12

It amazes me that people just don't pay attention enough Johnny2X2X Jul 2 #19

Yep. Good post. Very true. awesomerwb1 Jul 2 #26

Real wages are falling again Johnny2X2X Jul 2 #14

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Probably part of it Johnny2X2X Jul 2 #16

MaddowBlog-Job numbers disappoint again as 2026 reaches halfway point LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2 #17

A disaster Johnny2X2X Jul 2 #18

Holy crap. 115,000 seems like a low target to begin with. RandomNumbers Jul 2 #20

The media is a joke Johnny2X2X Jul 2 #22

I don't get how it is positive at all WSHazel Jul 2 #23

Not close to that many Johnny2X2X Jul 2 #24

You are citing Trump's census department for that net migration number WSHazel Jul 2 #25