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49. And the supposedly business-friendly Republicans cut Obama's business Stimulus package in half

Fri Jul 3, 2026, 02:52 AM

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They wanted Obama’s damage control to infuse their Cheney-Bush-stricken companies with cash, but not so much that it would bring the American economy back to a roaring success, or else the Democrats might have held Congress and the White House uninterrupted for the next thirty years.

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There Are Very Few Socialists in America: Krugman [View all] applegrove Jul 2 OP

He's right Fiendish Thingy Jul 2 #1

I have been saying this over and over for the 8 years (today is my 8 year anniversary) I have been on DU Celerity Jul 2 #16

Happy Anniversary SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2 #30

thanks so much Celerity Jul 2 #35

What's the difference? Farmer-Rick Jul 2 #17

It's more than semantics Fiendish Thingy Jul 2 #23

I agree AZProgressive Jul 2 #2

And, believe it or not, as president, Biden was the closest to a Keynesian since LBJ. Fiendish Thingy Jul 2 #24

Like when the Danish PM reminded someone that Denmark's a market economy, not socialist. betsuni Jul 2 #3

That reminds me of a quote from Tom Souzzi AZProgressive Jul 2 #7

These secret conspire & whine cocktail parties sound intriguing. betsuni Jul 2 #36

Oh, and same revolution person said attendees at such Democratic events are "older, whiter, and wealthier" betsuni Friday #43

Not only that DFW Friday #44

I forgot the canapes: "Some of the wealthiest members of the political establishment are hiding behind closed doors betsuni Friday #57

When I hear canapes, I always think caviar, which I hate DFW Friday #58

I love the Scandinavian smoked cod roe caviar that comes in tubes (any seafood-mayo or cheese in tubes). betsuni Friday #61

I used to get this a lot in France in the 1960s, from many 18 year old experts on the USA who had never been there DFW Friday #63

Interesting experiences! electric_blue68 Sunday #69

At first, neither did I, but it soon became clear DFW Monday #71

Norman Thomas, perennial socialist candidate, knew FDR was not a Socialist DBoon Friday #59

More of us every day. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2 #4

Socialism represents public power. Of course Emile Jul 2 #5

Absolutely, and, I'm tired of the bad faith false choice. Oneironaut Jul 2 #6

But MAGA morons believe Fox, and Trump, and SInclaire radio, NewsMax etc. They're dumb and hateful people ChicagoTeamster Jul 2 #8

Great, just please stop using the term "socialist." Say "Democrat." Period. Auggie Jul 2 #9

Doesn't matter SurfLiberal Jul 2 #10

That word can rally their troops. Like your idea -- stay home. Auggie Jul 2 #25

Doesn't mean you have to call yourself one Boo1 Jul 2 #26

Sorta like the Nordic model Joinfortmill Jul 2 #11

social democracy is a foundation for our Nordic Model (I am in Sweden) Celerity Jul 2 #13

The elephant in the room that is not being addressed here.. ananda Jul 2 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author applegrove Jul 2 #14

It is called liberalism in Canada. applegrove Jul 2 #15

The Liberal Party of Canada is not a social democratic party, the New Democratic Party is the social democratic party. Celerity Jul 2 #27

They could have had Polliviere Callie1979 Friday #51

Economically, Carney is making multiple moves that are similar to what Poilievre would do, Celerity Friday #54

Small "L" liberalism Fiendish Thingy Jul 2 #29

Used to be called that in the US, too. wnylib Jul 2 #37

Then the neocons took away the word liberal by making it derogatory. applegrove Jul 2 #38

I refused to have it taken from me. There is nothing wrong wnylib Friday #41

Liberal and Socialist have been tainted by the Rs and their Big Media 31j20b3 Jul 2 #18

John Steinbeck quote anamnua Jul 2 #19

And that was many decades BEFORE Fox Noise. DFW Friday #53

As soon as the Govt starts bailing out failed "free market" Capitalism, any argument against Govt social programs ToxMarz Jul 2 #20

Right you are. Tax breaks for corporations is just a direct applegrove Jul 2 #22

That's a consequence of financial deregulations that wnylib Jul 2 #39

Regulated capitalism saw capitalism as an economic tool. Capitlists seek to unleash it as a form of governance. ToxMarz Friday #42

yup Skittles Friday #45

It doesn't matter Cirsium Jul 2 #21

Too many FASCISTS in the U.S! Remember in WWII, it was the fascists who REALLY hated the socialists. eom Exp Jul 2 #28

In The Third Reich, they merged DFW Friday #46

Absolutely. SamuelAdams Jul 2 #31

I have a confession to make SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2 #32

Same here. I have always said that I am a liberal Dem to the left of center, but wnylib Friday #40

It gets complicated when you say As In Europe. DFW Friday #47

Most American voters don't have that background understanding wnylib Friday #55

Pretty sad when affordable day care, affordable rent, and affordable transportation are called "socialism". Bluetus Jul 2 #33

Sad and disingenuous as well. DFW Friday #48

Krugman is tops BaronChocula Jul 2 #34

And the supposedly business-friendly Republicans cut Obama's business Stimulus package in half DFW Friday #49

Scumbags BaronChocula Friday #50

It is a mentality we will never understand, and they exploit that to the max DFW Friday #52

"but they are grateful for our reluctance to do so" BaronChocula Friday #60

I have run into Gingrich a few times, but never really talked to him. DFW Friday #65

He's very wrong TVguyCards Friday #56

I think most people voting for candidates to get universal applegrove Friday #62

I wouldn't be so sure TVguyCards Friday #64

"make the argument that workers should own the means of production" EX500rider Friday #66

Ahh I was expecting you to say that :) TVguyCards Friday #67

So the short answer is there have been no economically successful socialists countries? EX500rider Friday #68

I can say back in NYC in the early 1970s there were some Socialists. I know because.... electric_blue68 Sunday #70