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-misanthroptimist

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14. Maybe it is at this point

Mon Jul 6, 2026, 10:10 PM

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It's a nasty position, but we need to win. So, do we vote for less-than-worthy or even downright nasty people who can win or do we insist on a candidate of high character and lose?

By any standard of character, Kerry should have crushed Bush -a decorated war veteran v. a NG pilot who may well have deserted. He didn't.

Harris, who AFAIK had no real baggage, should have beaten a convicted felon with ease. She didn't.

It is obvious that character doesn't count with a majority of Americans -not just Republicans, but a fair number of independents, too.

So, do we insist on high character all the way to the gulags, or do we compromise (hopefully temporarily) our standards and just get our people elected?

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Plenty of smart people raised the warning about Platner. [View all] LexVegas Monday OP

And they're all patting themselves on the back...loudly -misanthroptimist Monday #1

Not all. Many Democratics are trying to figure out a way to salvage this race. N/T lapucelle Monday #3

It is unsalvageable. -misanthroptimist Monday #5

Just stop with the doom and gloom. We gotta try our best. There is too much at stake boston bean Monday #16

Patting themselves on the back? sheshe2 Monday #6

EXACTLY!!! niyad Monday #8

Don't be ridiculous Orrex Tuesday #56

Sadly, you are quite correct. niyad Tuesday #77

No, it's patting themselves on the back -misanthroptimist Tuesday #59

I can read too. sheshe2 Tuesday #69

Twice, apparently. -misanthroptimist Tuesday #72

This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Tuesday #70

That's certainly one perspective Torchlight Tuesday #74

It certainly is -misanthroptimist Tuesday #84

When a candidate disqualifies themselves, they lose the right to dictate the party's future. QueerDuck Tuesday #65

And this right here: sheshe2 Tuesday #68

You shouldn't be disappointed... CrimsonBight Tuesday #75

yes eShirl Monday #10

Certainly unlike the Platner supporters who gleefully belittled anyone who pointed out Platner's history EdmondDantes_ Monday #12

I KNOW I AM! 💅 THE DEFENDERS WERE LOUD AND AGGRESSIVE. ColoringFool Tuesday #57

You are not alone, my friend. QueerDuck Tuesday #66

Why shouldn't we? mcar Tuesday #61

Platner wouldn't have ANY baggage IF he was a Republican. They don't care. It's all about winning. NoMoreRepugs Monday #2

Should we have the same standard as Republicans? sarisataka Monday #4

That does seem to be the message some are going with Boo1 Monday #7

Maybe it is at this point -misanthroptimist Monday #14

Have you ever read Animal Farm? sarisataka Monday #17

"Donkeys live a long time. None of you have ever seen a dead donkey." -misanthroptimist Monday #23

1984 is another of my favorite books sarisataka Monday #28

Not in base2 or base3 -misanthroptimist Monday #31

LOL sarisataka Monday #33

Draw a moral line for yourself and don't support rapists. boston bean Monday #18

Yes -misanthroptimist Monday #22

Men with such low morals and ethics will not be your savior. Think Trump. Just cause there's boston bean Monday #25

The long and short of it is this at this point -misanthroptimist Monday #27

Or you can vote for a different democrat-if he drops out as he should. boston bean Monday #34

If he drops out -misanthroptimist Monday #36

But it IS better with a (D) after their name, Jack Valentino Monday #48

How about we don't embrace rapist Nazis? mcar Tuesday #62

Who's embracing him? -misanthroptimist Tuesday #82

Substandard? Substandard? mcar Tuesday #86

Post removed Post removed Tuesday #87

It's not just Republicans -misanthroptimist Monday #15

We do not support rapists. boston bean Monday #20

No, I support Democrats -misanthroptimist Monday #24

Rapist Democrats? boston bean Monday #26

If that's the only choice, yes. -misanthroptimist Monday #29

You want him to stay in I presume so you can vote for him. Even though he is a rapist. boston bean Monday #30

Whoa! Wait a damn, tootin' minute, pardner! -misanthroptimist Monday #39

You can hang your hat on that. boston bean Monday #42

Civil adjudication is good enough, imo. -misanthroptimist Monday #47

When he was first elected there were twenty boston bean Tuesday #50

For rape? I sure as hell did. -misanthroptimist Tuesday #53

TRUMP LOST a civil case about an alleged rape. Jack Valentino Monday #49

How many rape allegations do you need to hear before it's an issue for you? Orrex Tuesday #80

This message was self-deleted by its author Stacey Grove Tuesday #54

Ouch. A dead dog on the ticket, I'd vote for. But a rapist? A bridge..... ColoringFool Tuesday #58

There were other Democrats of higher character running in the primary Shrek Tuesday #55

I was one of them. Thanks mcar Monday #9

But, you must understand, there was no EVIDENCE that any of those niyad Monday #11

Even if they didn't want to believe those awful horrible women, they could have believed Platner EdmondDantes_ Monday #13

So one would have thought! niyad Monday #21

Oh yes, actual, verfiable evidence that is acceptable to certain posters mcar Tuesday #63

Exactly!!! niyad Tuesday #64

Don't forget "And even if they were telling the truth, he hasn't been convicted of a crime." QueerDuck Tuesday #71

Bernie always picks lousy candidates for general elections. They need to go away! Wanderlust988 Monday #19

"Just stop with the doom and gloom." J_William_Ryan Monday #32

WTF? LisaL Monday #35

I've been voting here since before she ran for Senate. At no time did GPV Tuesday #76

Is there such a shortage of potential Dem candidates in Maine wnylib Monday #37

Apparently so, because they didn't come up with another one LisaL Monday #38

If he drops out as candudate, is it possible wnylib Monday #41

No, it's not possible to have another primary. LisaL Monday #43

They'd better move fast and make a good, competitive choice, then. wnylib Monday #44

Yes, he has to drop out in a week. LisaL Monday #45

As to your last line, I doubt it. His ego (or someone's) is clearly niyad Tuesday #78

They're usually right. The only reason I'm still here. betsuni Monday #40

I hear you Keepthesoulalive Tuesday #52

Mahalo, LexVegas! Hopefully we can get Cha Monday #46

Like me. RandySF Tuesday #51

Yep... PunkinPi Tuesday #60

Lot of smart people also warned DNC we need new blood. Kid Berwyn Tuesday #67

Plenty of smart people supported Platner too. It happens. I am sure if you look back, plenty Nanjeanne Tuesday #73

The difference between platner and the others you mentioned, niyad Tuesday #79

It wasn't rocket science to see his less than stellar ways nini Tuesday #81

Didn't Rebl2 Tuesday #83

Yes, Sanders endorsed Platner as a candidate. Jacson6 Tuesday #85