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hlthe2b

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37. In only a few states, no matter how you or I may feel about it. Please stop calling out DUers
Tue Jul 7, 2026, 06:58 PM
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who are either less informed or perhaps better informed, given it is not being prosecuted as rape or even sexual assault in MOST states and in those that do is most often a civil, not criminal prosecution, as I laid out from my relative who has prosecuted such cases.

This year, at least three states — Vermont, Texas, and Utah— are reportedly considering passing anti-stealthing legislation inspired by the California law, though none have made it to its respective governor's desk. Several more states have considered versions of the issue since 2017, though those previous bills have so far failed to gain the traction necessary to push through legislatures in Wisconsin, New York, New Jersey and Idaho, in part because there has been disagreement over whether "stealthing" rises to the level of rape and whether it's a civil or criminal offense. (It should be noted that the bill only passed in California after Garcia re-introduced it as a civil — not criminal — offense.) 


Read More: https://www.women.com/1270289/yes-stealthing-is-sexual-assault-here-are-the-states-taking-action-against-it/

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I don't need to know more about this guy... lame54 Yesterday #1
I believe her. QueerDuck Yesterday #2
Also a crime in many states. RandySF Yesterday #3
Only if it is a clear violation of a consensual agreement--and then almost always ONLY if repercussions hlthe2b Yesterday #6
It is illegal in my state because it negates a woman's consent and it is treated as sexual assualt. 50 Shades Of Blue Yesterday #9
It is hard to prove. I have a close relative who lives in such a state-- and has tried to prosecute... hlthe2b Yesterday #13
Regardless, it's a crime. Plenty of crimes are hard to prove. 50 Shades Of Blue Yesterday #15
And given courts, juries, judges believe the defendent's claim of accident--sans a lot of other hlthe2b Yesterday #16
How many shitty behaviors does a guy get to get a pass on? EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #28
EdmondDantes. You tell me we exactly where I have ever given him benefit-of-the-doubt? hlthe2b Yesterday #31
Here's the exact quote: EdmondDantes_ 22 hrs ago #53
The intent (as you WELL know is to put emphasis on the rape allegations already made) hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #54
Nothing would surprise me about him now. WinningAgain Yesterday #4
This is becoming gratuitous.. We get it.. He needs to go... hlthe2b Yesterday #5
This woman already talked about this months ago with the NYT obamanut2012 Yesterday #20
I have addressed this repeatedly in this and other posts... hlthe2b Yesterday #27
Platner is done MerryBlooms Yesterday #38
I fear the party powers-that-be are going to make everything even worse (if that is possible).. hlthe2b Yesterday #40
Mills was right of centrist MerryBlooms 23 hrs ago #49
I take your opinion on Mills and the reasons for her rejection... hlthe2b 23 hrs ago #51
TMI (too much information). Spare us the details Katinfl Yesterday #7
She is talking about him sexually assaulting her obamanut2012 Yesterday #22
This message was self-deleted by its author WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #8
Oh who cares about this? Are people really interested in these kinds of details? Nanjeanne Yesterday #10
Same here. Why do I need to hear about this. Polly Hennessey Yesterday #12
it's sexual assault, so it's okay if it happens all the time? obamanut2012 Yesterday #24
Even those few states that have developed (mostly civil statutes) fail to consider it rape hlthe2b Yesterday #36
Yes, it's sexual assault obamanut2012 Yesterday #23
In only a few states, no matter how you or I may feel about it. Please stop calling out DUers hlthe2b Yesterday #37
Ok I'm jumping out of semi retirement to address this JefilteFish 22 hrs ago #52
I am downplaying nothing. Only that the emphasis on the rapes is enough to remove him hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #55
You're carrying water for anyone who wants to dismiss JefilteFish 18 hrs ago #56
You are being ridiculous and your accusations show you don't bother to read or hlthe2b 13 hrs ago #57
That's downright galling and disgusting. no_hypocrisy Yesterday #11
I assume bathroom habits and personal grooming are next? NoMoreRepugs Yesterday #14
Why are you excusing rape??? THIS IS RAPE obamanut2012 Yesterday #25
I think it should be But those states with or considering stealthing statutes largely have not... hlthe2b Yesterday #35
What. The. Fuck? mcar Yesterday #33
He wanted 18 years of child support payments. milestogo Yesterday #17
I suspect it had more to do with MorbidButterflyTat 23 hrs ago #50
Thanks for this post. The subject line is clear about its content TommyT139 Yesterday #18
Thank you for the link. demmiblue Yesterday #21
Seriously, this is literally a form of rape obamanut2012 Yesterday #26
It's been eye-opening. demmiblue Yesterday #30
Maybe, just maybe others are either less informed or actually MORE INFORMED on the issue hlthe2b 23 hrs ago #44
I'm not reading that again -- I am educated on this obamanut2012 4 hrs ago #60
Honestly, I thought (like others) it was more universally outlawed. TommyT139 Yesterday #29
Especially with the downfall of Roe, and the attack on women's reproductive healthcare.n/t demmiblue Yesterday #32
Yeah, it's a way to control and baby trap women obamanut2012 Yesterday #41
I think many do. But there is a lot of misinformation and conflation on this issue and hlthe2b Yesterday #39
Except this is more proof of rape obamanut2012 Yesterday #42
It can be. As I posted earlier... hlthe2b 23 hrs ago #46
No, stealthing is a form of rape obamanut2012 4 hrs ago #61
You and I believe so-- along with most women. The law has NOT caught up and we need to hlthe2b 3 hrs ago #62
Stealthing is rape obamanut2012 Yesterday #19
It is no wonder women feel there's no point in reporting sexual assaults sarisataka Yesterday #34
Thank you obamanut2012 Yesterday #43
So he sexually assaulted her. Jirel 23 hrs ago #45
Yes, when consensual sex turns into rape, it's rape. Iggo 23 hrs ago #48
I've already heard enough about this guy. Iggo 23 hrs ago #47
This woman was previously discredited as a right-wing partisan Shrek 12 hrs ago #58
No, she wasn't obamanut2012 4 hrs ago #59
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