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Raftergirl

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22. I'm a liberal and proud of it.

Thu Jul 9, 2026, 11:24 AM

21 hrs ago

I’m not against what the progressive wing of the party believe in, just not a fan of how the go about it, basically because I do not think what they are trying to do will work, at all. I don’t think that most progressives realize how conservative (little c) the US is, relative to our peer nations.

I am a pragmatist.

They can win in certain places but across the country, absolutely not, especially in most state wide elections.

Even the R’s can’t get their agenda (except for lower taxes for the wealthy) passed in Congress. Everything has to be done by EO. And then the courts have to get involved.

If they want to get things done, they need to start at the local election level., imo.

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What is the difference between a progressive and a liberal? [View all] Walleye 22 hrs ago OP

liberals occasionally justaprogressive 22 hrs ago #1

That's my impression. So I guess that makes him part of the "establishment" Walleye 22 hrs ago #11

Historically, by the Progressive Era bucolic_frolic 22 hrs ago #2

Both do both paleotn 22 hrs ago #5

Can't entirely agree or disagree bucolic_frolic 22 hrs ago #7

You couldn't slide piece of paper through the difference paleotn 22 hrs ago #3

Agree. It's lost all meaning. BannonsLiver 21 hrs ago #26

Progressives stand for progress and change Fiendish Thingy 22 hrs ago #4

I'm glad you noted "stand for" progress and change. W_HAMILTON 22 hrs ago #8

Well, I was referring to progressive politicians specifically, not voters Fiendish Thingy 22 hrs ago #14

Yes, it is standing up for one's values. W_HAMILTON 21 hrs ago #19

Like I said, a debateable strategy Fiendish Thingy 21 hrs ago #25

It's your civic duty to vote. It's either or. Walleye 18 hrs ago #43

I agree casting a ballot should be mandatory Fiendish Thingy 18 hrs ago #46

I get the feeling that the purpose of elections, to determine the will of the people, is being buried somehow Walleye 18 hrs ago #51

I'm sure someone will chime in with some intricate delineation... W_HAMILTON 22 hrs ago #6

This is what I think, too. CrispyQ 21 hrs ago #16

I think in this particular election being against Trump is enough Walleye 18 hrs ago #44

Some are hip buzzwords Keepthesoulalive 18 hrs ago #52

lets divide progressives. rampartd 22 hrs ago #9

simple Whip-poor-will 22 hrs ago #10

Liberals are more about individual freedom; progressives want to build new structures muriel_volestrangler 22 hrs ago #12

This Progressive is so far left of left... ZDU 22 hrs ago #13

Thank you to everyone who answered. It's all very interesting. Walleye 21 hrs ago #15

Agree - whether people like it or not we have a two party system in America. walkingman 21 hrs ago #18

The two party system is a huge part of the problem. The Madcap 20 hrs ago #31

I do wish we has a parliamentary system. I also wish we were a democracy instead of a democratic republic walkingman 20 hrs ago #36

Joe Biden managed to get some bipartisan legislation passed Walleye 18 hrs ago #45

And if they don't like the two party system, they can feel free to think of it as 100+ million party system. W_HAMILTON 19 hrs ago #37

The word "Liberal" has numerous meanings and different usages. LeftInTX 20 hrs ago #28

I personally think withholding votes, is a shade of "anarchism" LeftInTX 20 hrs ago #34

There are many people who feel the same way we do politically, but they refuse to participate. I don't know what Walleye 18 hrs ago #47

The way I look at it is this.... walkingman 21 hrs ago #17

I described myself as a proud Democrat Walleye 21 hrs ago #24

I'm a "big tent Democrat" LeftInTX 20 hrs ago #33

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I have always identified myself as a liberal for one very simple reason Peacetrain 21 hrs ago #21

I'm a liberal and proud of it. Raftergirl 21 hrs ago #22

This message was self-deleted by its author Prairie_Seagull 21 hrs ago #23

Incrementalists within the system vs. Reformers who think the system is broken Sympthsical 20 hrs ago #27

Progressives are Liberals Progressive dog 20 hrs ago #29

A sliver. RandySF 20 hrs ago #30

Progressives are more idealistic, less pragmatic... BH liberal 20 hrs ago #32

What is the benefit of this question? We all need each other.... legallyblondeNYC 20 hrs ago #35

Progressives tend to work towards a group goal. haele 19 hrs ago #38

Redefined: progressive (anti-establishment, working class, good) liberal (establishment, elite, not progressive, evil). betsuni 19 hrs ago #39

In recent years, Progressives work for progress, 31j20b3 18 hrs ago #40

They used to be called blue dog Democrats and were mostly southern. Raftergirl 18 hrs ago #48

Yes, I was just going to remark on that. In Delaware we had a very liberal Republican governor. But those days are gone Walleye 18 hrs ago #50

Lincoln Chaffee was another one. He eventually left the R party and became a D. Raftergirl 18 hrs ago #53

So did the governor I mentioned. Governor Peterson. Walleye 18 hrs ago #54

Liberals support liberty. Progressives support progress. meadowlander 18 hrs ago #41

Imo, a progressive is someone who is afraid of the word liberal. ananda 18 hrs ago #42

That is my general impression Walleye 18 hrs ago #49

there is no difference mike_c 18 hrs ago #55

I don't think there is an equivalent in the Republican party Walleye 17 hrs ago #56

Liberals are center-left and progressives are left many a good man 16 hrs ago #57

Well said! BH liberal 14 hrs ago #58