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Cirsium

(4,306 posts)
55. Often true
Thu Jul 9, 2026, 01:42 PM
2 hrs ago

That is often true. It does not only happen to one wing of the party. Also, it is not that "he said what they wanted to hear." He talked policy that they support and agree with. That is legitimate, though Platner is not. You insult and demean his supporters with your statement.

Manchin was, in my view, a bad candidate from the beginning and people ignored that because "it's the best we can do in that state." I think that is similar.

Platner is a really odd case. His team, outsiders who strike me as very strange, capitalized on voter frustrations and "anti-establishment" sentiment in a cynical and manipulative way. They recruited a guy who looked the part and crafted a phony "working class hero" narrative around him.

Platner's oyster business was bought for him by his mother. His only customer was his mother's restaurant. He was supposedly against the wars, but then re-upped. Then he went to work for Blackwater. He was sexting multiple women after he was married. He made racist and sexist posts over the years. He had a Totenkopf tattoo.

I didn't find Platner's explanations for any of that very persuasive. I think that anyone who didn't understand that those issues would come up is not ready to be a US Senator. I found the explanations by his team to be abhorrent and disgusting. I was not impressed by his wife's defense of him, and thought that was a weak and amateurish move to have her defend him.

That said, I didn't find the Politico reporter who was interviewed on Morning Joe to be at all credible. Also, the woman who accused him of rape did not seem credible to me nor to my wife, either.

The whole disgusting episode is a nightmare and a threat to the success of the party at the worst possible time. I would encourage people to refrain from throwing fuel the fire and to refrain from using this to attack an entire wing of the party.

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Allegations sink Democrats [View all] luv2fly 20 hrs ago OP
Republicans know this, they use it against Democrats. sop 20 hrs ago #1
Right on! Every F'ing time -- when there's a (D), (R)s clutch their pearls and squawk to deafen Tim S 19 hrs ago #9
The old Karl Rove playbook - turn the Democrats' strength into a weakness dalton99a 19 hrs ago #13
Fuck Platner. demmiblue 20 hrs ago #2
That says more about the rot in the Republican Party RandySF 19 hrs ago #3
There is a lot of hypocrisy within the party if it is candidate they like AZProgressive 19 hrs ago #6
What Franken did was tacky but not worthy of resignation RandySF 19 hrs ago #8
Often true Cirsium 2 hrs ago #55
I don't think so........... Lovie777 19 hrs ago #4
Nothing can stop the Blue Tsunami in November Fiendish Thingy 19 hrs ago #5
... demmiblue 19 hrs ago #7
Nothing except apathy which has now grown within me too Tim S 19 hrs ago #10
Republicans see their grip on Senate tighten amid Democrats' dysfunction in Maine dalton99a 19 hrs ago #11
NOPE MorbidButterflyTat 16 hrs ago #27
Fortunately most of us aren't willing to lower our standards that much EdmondDantes_ 19 hrs ago #12
That moral highhorse may not work on people revolted by far greater moral transgressions AloeVera 17 hrs ago #21
So how many rapes does a candidate get a free pass on? Llewlladdwr 16 hrs ago #31
Read the post I was replying to again. AloeVera 8 hrs ago #36
It's not the quantity; it's the identity of the alleged victim Shrek 8 hrs ago #37
Facts don't seem relevant in this sub-thread. AloeVera 8 hrs ago #39
That is the attitude that gave us Trump sarisataka 16 hrs ago #32
Pls show me a correlation between havig morals, values and stopping the Gaza genocide. AloeVera 7 hrs ago #41
Do you disagree that electing Harris sarisataka 5 hrs ago #45
Of course not, but that's besides the point I am making here. AloeVera 5 hrs ago #46
Here is the connection sarisataka 4 hrs ago #47
Entirely false equivalence. AloeVera 3 hrs ago #48
"Pledging to continue funding a genocidal state is not an "imperfection". sarisataka 3 hrs ago #50
Moving goalposts but ok. AloeVera 53 min ago #59
That is rewriting reality sarisataka 22 min ago #60
We can agree to disagree. AloeVera 11 min ago #61
The best way to stop a genocide Boo1 16 hrs ago #33
If he labels himself a progressive? MorbidButterflyTat 15 hrs ago #35
Not what I said. AloeVera 8 hrs ago #38
I guess we should elect people just like Republicans sarisataka 19 hrs ago #14
Sadly, relayerbob 18 hrs ago #15
The answer is not to throw our own principles out the window just because they get away with being shit humans. FascismIsDeath 18 hrs ago #16
No compromising. Never surrender your morality and... littlemissmartypants 17 hrs ago #17
The Totenkopf was a dealbreaker for me hardluck 17 hrs ago #18
I thought it ruined his chances. Yet a few months later, he's ahead. Go figure. LeftInTX 17 hrs ago #26
Republicans love rapists. Democrats hate them. Does that explain it for you? tritsofme 17 hrs ago #19
What Republicans love is Democrats falling on their own sword. AloeVera 17 hrs ago #23
The timing could have been much much worse. A few days longer and we would have been stuck with a rapist on the ballot. tritsofme 16 hrs ago #28
There is no path forward for any Democrat ACCUSED of rape. AloeVera 7 hrs ago #43
He didn't fall on his own sword Boo1 16 hrs ago #34
Not Platner. Democrats. N/T AloeVera 7 hrs ago #42
"Not Platner. Democrats." Jedi Guy 3 hrs ago #49
Falling on one's sword means a noble act of sacrifice and honour. AloeVera 1 hr ago #58
So who will replace Platner? flamingdem 17 hrs ago #20
As I understand it, they will call a convention and select spooky3 17 hrs ago #22
Great. Party insiders will triangulate and nominate someone. Meanwhile, when this happens, we lose AZLD4Candidate 17 hrs ago #24
Watch tonights LD show. sheshe2 17 hrs ago #25
Great minds! MorbidButterflyTat 16 hrs ago #30
Watch Lawrence O'Donnell's segment tonight with Devon Murphy-Anderson MorbidButterflyTat 16 hrs ago #29
Don't forget Jeffrey Epstein. Kid Berwyn 8 hrs ago #40
The standard we're talking about isn't difficult for any adult to meet: Torchlight 7 hrs ago #44
Are you suggesting that we, as a party, should lower our standards? ⁉️ QueerDuck 3 hrs ago #51
I loved what Platner was saying NeoTrajan 3 hrs ago #52
Thing is, we want to be better than Republicans. So there ya go. ColoringFool 3 hrs ago #53
What are you suggesting should change? Quiet Em 3 hrs ago #54
Bull shit. wnylib 2 hrs ago #56
Wilhoit's Law usonian 2 hrs ago #57
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