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105. I thought it was offensive to call someone "nuts" or "crazy", some hypocrisy here?

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:58 PM

Feb 2013

You wouldn't do that to a person with a mental illness would you?

Or are you just taking the stigma associated with people who are mentally handicapped and projecting it on your "enemies"?

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Junior high teacher tells kid to remove Marines t-shirt or get suspended (has guns on it) [View all] The Straight Story Feb 2013 OP

Fox News trying to make fans of gun control look stupid? NightWatcher Feb 2013 #1

Its not hard to do ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #12

Almost as easy as making gun advocates look stupid. Orrex Feb 2013 #22

The freaks on both ends make for easy news fillers ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #26

Yeah, but when gun control freaks go on a rampage... Orrex Feb 2013 #47

I thought it was offensive to call someone "nuts" or "crazy", some hypocrisy here? snooper2 Feb 2013 #105

Ahh! Shame on me! Orrex Feb 2013 #110

These are the words of "ProgressiveProfessor" on 12/14/2012: brentspeak Feb 2013 #75

Indeed that was the case...the media was in the midst of a meltdown and we did not have a clue ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #76

Ah, yes, it was certainly a "good call" for you to claim brentspeak Feb 2013 #78

Indeed it was. There is enough discrimination against the mentally ill in the county ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #80

That's right: He might have done it to get rich brentspeak Feb 2013 #81

Or have been under the influence, or... ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #85

I have a theory that you might be employed by a gun control organization brentspeak Feb 2013 #117

There is a group for conspiracies theories... ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #120

No need to TRY, this person managed just fine on their own Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #19

by the same line of argument Trajan Feb 2013 #34

I suggest you delete that... Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #42

like I really give a rat's ass Trajan Feb 2013 #54

I was just being nice. n/t Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #61

When I was in middle school xmas74 Mar 2013 #180

Tough nuggies. Guns on a shirt in school don't belong. HERVEPA Feb 2013 #2

And who is making Marine shirts with guns on them? tridim Feb 2013 #11

Some people are such delicate flowers ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Feb 2013 #94

I wasn't part of it... ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #95

Wow, a Fox News story catapulted by the Daily Caller. Robb Feb 2013 #3

Love how people don't comment on stories but sources The Straight Story Feb 2013 #5

OK. It's also an idiotic story, and makes you look stupid for posting it. Robb Feb 2013 #7

Please edit the personal insult before someone hits alert. IdaBriggs Feb 2013 #25

Posting links to Fox News and the Daily Caller *doesn't* make people look stupid? Robb Feb 2013 #59

The link was to a Yahoo story. Straight Story is *NOT* stupid. IdaBriggs Feb 2013 #83

I would definitely vote as a Juror to "Leave it" if someone alerted on his post. madinmaryland Mar 2013 #193

Ha! You ever visit the I/P dungeon? I'd guess 50% of the comments are related to sources. Purveyor Mar 2013 #151

Have no fear, alp227 the source hunter is here! alp227 Mar 2013 #175

then re-catapulted by Yahoo Enrique Feb 2013 #97

"poisoning the well" Lizzie Poppet Feb 2013 #113

Well, just for you The Straight Story Mar 2013 #143

You truly must think DUers are idiots. Robb Mar 2013 #147

Umm, more like reddit most likely The Straight Story Mar 2013 #178

As a matter of fact.... The Straight Story Mar 2013 #146

OK then here's a story about this incident from the local paper: alp227 Mar 2013 #174

but, but...fox news and other places had it to, so it can't be real and us talk about it The Straight Story Mar 2013 #177

Is there some part of... 99Forever Feb 2013 #4

Delicate is being scared of pictures (nt) The Straight Story Feb 2013 #6

Nope. 99Forever Feb 2013 #8

The Superintendent backed the student, not the delicate flower ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #28

So what? 99Forever Feb 2013 #31

It means the teacher was wrong ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #33

Nope... 99Forever Feb 2013 #37

The one who set the policy gets to make that call ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #56

The one that made the call needs to be fired... 99Forever Feb 2013 #58

Exactly, if only the teacher was smart enough to follow clearly stated policy hughee99 Feb 2013 #30

So you are in favor of school Zero Tolerance policies? Bake Feb 2013 #69

This appears to be the act of an over-zealous (or over-cautious) teacher Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #9

Picture is disgusting. I'm hoping the talk with the guidance counselor helped. HERVEPA Feb 2013 #63

I agree Macoy51 Feb 2013 #67

If you'd every met the guidance counselor, you'd be howling with laughter... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #79

Not to mention the lack of eye protection ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #77

I saw your flameout in Meta over this, did you alert as well? ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #128

OMG pintobean Mar 2013 #139

Ping my ass with a bb-gun, will you? (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Mar 2013 #140

I had to give my bb gun to a nephew pintobean Mar 2013 #141

I'm sure the NRA will be in their corner (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Mar 2013 #148

Ridicule effort to detect reason for concern? TXDem1975 Mar 2013 #182

I bought my sons a bunch of HappyMe Feb 2013 #10

"It’s more about the Marines instead of the rifles." randome Feb 2013 #13

What about the Marines is "non violent" ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #17

I know. They dress it up in high-sounding 'security' and 'educational' functions. randome Feb 2013 #21

I'd guess unless your military job is in communications, transportation, medicine, logistics, hughee99 Feb 2013 #35

Every Marine, regardless of specialty, is first and foremost a rifleman ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #38

Yes, and yet depending on their job, they can spend a vast majority of their time hughee99 Feb 2013 #50

Or airplane mech, or tanker. ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #52

I agree. The point I was responding to was what they spend a majority hughee99 Feb 2013 #55

I spent a tour of duty in the Air Force during the Vietnam Era ... spin Feb 2013 #93

Greetings fellow AF vet. Pararescue Feb 2013 #101

Thanks. ... spin Feb 2013 #114

Career AF here Pararescue Feb 2013 #116

We all know that marines carry guns only as a fashion statement. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #82

Exactly. Do a google search for US Marines T shirt, alp227 Mar 2013 #173

My daughter has a hoodie she can no longer wear to school. sadbear Feb 2013 #14

That's a pretty design! Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #20

Here's a photo of the shirt deutsey Feb 2013 #16

Its a more modern version of the cross-rifle insignia sported by US Army Infantry Victor_c3 Feb 2013 #64

Well, it seems to me that you earned that badge deutsey Feb 2013 #111

Suspension is too lenient Capt. Obvious Feb 2013 #18

Only after they Taze him Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #23

Looks like the administration backed down and backed the kid ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #24

They didn't back down. It was never a violation to begin with. (nt) Nine Feb 2013 #27

Indeed, the teacher was wrong in their threat of suspension. ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #32

What action do you think should be taken? Nine Feb 2013 #43

Counsel the teacher and keep an eye out for retaliation ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #51

Wow. You want to send a teacher to counseling for asking a kid to turn his shirt inside out? Nine Feb 2013 #68

I said counsel...which means you sit down with the employee and discuss what happened ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #73

And why shouldn't they run to the media with it? Bake Feb 2013 #70

You have one side of the story TXDem1975 Mar 2013 #181

That's too bad Capt. Obvious Feb 2013 #40

Careful or there will be a counter reaction by the students and maybe the staff ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #46

Did you copy and paste that? Capt. Obvious Feb 2013 #49

Good. We ne to do all we can to counteract the pro gun/ pro military mindset n this country. bowens43 Feb 2013 #29

The teacher was wrong according to Superintendent of Schools ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #39

Yeah, you really can't count on administration to stand behind the teachers. sadbear Feb 2013 #84

Perhaps the teacher was wrong or took the wrong approach to it. ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #86

Or perhaps this student simply ignored previous warnings. sadbear Feb 2013 #87

I take that to mean that this was the first time any of the staff did anything about it ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #89

Or the first time they stopped warning him. sadbear Feb 2013 #90

There is some ambiguity there ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #91

Yup. sadbear Feb 2013 #92

Espcially when the teacher becomes the target... TXDem1975 Mar 2013 #183

Welcome to DU!!! sadbear Mar 2013 #194

Happened at my wife's school Taverner Feb 2013 #36

Isn't that what kids do? Dealing with it is a big part of what teachers do ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #41

I'm not arguing that it isn't an overreaction... Taverner Feb 2013 #44

Bad judgement for asking a student to turn his shirt inside out? Nine Feb 2013 #45

A phone call would have sufficed ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #53

Are you sure they didn't just fail the Fox News test? (nt) Nine Feb 2013 #57

The Washington Post test is actually media independent and this is now on multiple media sources ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #65

I know what you meant. Nine Feb 2013 #74

Poor kid...he can't find a Marines tee shirt without death sticks on it. Walk away Feb 2013 #48

I'm not a rah-rah semper fi kind of guy Bake Feb 2013 #72

Most schools these days forbid "logo" shirts of ANY kind.. SoCalDem Feb 2013 #60

Not from what I have seen ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #66

If any other shirt that madmom Feb 2013 #62

It was allowed... Whats_that Feb 2013 #96

So if another kid came in with the exact same shirt but without madmom Feb 2013 #102

It appears that the rules do not specifically mention guns ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #108

I have no problem with the shirt, but I want to know if it was madmom Feb 2013 #112

The policy is vague and that is probably intentional ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #115

FAUX "News" phony outrage rdharma Feb 2013 #88

Its on more places that Faux ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #99

my kid had to turn his shirt inside out Enrique Feb 2013 #98

My kid was threatened with suspension and it wasn't even a rule violation ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #103

Yeah, seems they left this one open to wide interpretation. sadbear Feb 2013 #106

Look, you can't have it both ways. Nine Mar 2013 #135

Take a look from a different perspective ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #136

Asking a kid to turn a t-shirt inside out is an "unnecessarily aggressive" step? Nine Mar 2013 #137

You are still thinking in binary terms ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #163

This message was self-deleted by its author ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #160

If everyone wore shirts with pictures of guns on them, nobody would be scared of shirts slackmaster Feb 2013 #100

LOL ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #104

If everyone watched FAUX, everyone would be scared .....of EVERYTHING! rdharma Feb 2013 #107

It's against state law where I teach to wear clothing with guns proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #109

Have that law handy? I'd expect such a law to be struck down pretty damned fast on 1st am grounds.nt X_Digger Feb 2013 #119

I assume he means students at school where the BOR is strongly curtailed. ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #122

Right, but that's a wholly different thing than 'against state law'.. X_Digger Mar 2013 #131

He cleared up his context in a reply to me. ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #132

I must be missing it, then. *shrug* X_Digger Mar 2013 #133

Try here ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #134

The Supreme Court refused to hear a case challenging school dress code in 2010. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #124

Right, but you piqued my interest with 'against state law'.. X_Digger Mar 2013 #130

You mean by students? ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #121

Adults who are employees would be covered under the district dress code. proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #125

Students are under similar strictures? ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #129

Zero-tolerance stupidity in action! Peter cotton Feb 2013 #118

Zero Tolerance is for stupid people and cowards. Iggo Feb 2013 #123

GREAT way to throw away a teaching moment. elleng Feb 2013 #126

Good for the teacher. MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #127

That's a pretty common dress code. LWolf Mar 2013 #138

Lego guns scare some people too Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2013 #142

And... 99Forever Mar 2013 #145

If this is a dress code issue, that's one thing Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2013 #149

No sir. 99Forever Mar 2013 #150

Whoa Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2013 #153

So you wouldn't suspend.. 99Forever Mar 2013 #156

I'm not sidestepping anything Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2013 #170

Call it what you want, but its a form of speech that has greater protection than sexually explicit onenote Mar 2013 #154

And at a point in time ... 99Forever Mar 2013 #157

Do you think a court would uphold a ban on a t-shirt with this picture? onenote Mar 2013 #158

Doesn't matter what "I" think. 99Forever Mar 2013 #159

If you didn't think a court would ever give corporations constitutional rights onenote Mar 2013 #165

Way to completely miss the point. 99Forever Mar 2013 #166

Okay, then please clear up the issue: do you think corporations should have first amendment rights onenote Mar 2013 #168

Completely irrelevant to the topic of the thread. 99Forever Mar 2013 #169

I'm not the one that brought up CU onenote Mar 2013 #171

It was an example, smart guy. 99Forever Mar 2013 #172

Minors are not generally legally allowed to own sexually explicit materials in the US. ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #176

I think I'll pass on... 99Forever Mar 2013 #179

That is probably wise in many cases, but that is not what I am doing. ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #184

It is question begging. 99Forever Mar 2013 #185

Will you please teach me why it is question begging? nt ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #186

Google is your friend. Use it. 99Forever Mar 2013 #187

I did look it up again when you first made the claim, ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #188

If you choose not to get it... 99Forever Mar 2013 #189

I think you are unable to back up your claims, so you use insults instead. ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #190

I didn't make... 99Forever Mar 2013 #191

Here is your claim: ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #192

Either guns on shirts are allowed or they are not. redgreenandblue Mar 2013 #144

actually, it exactly the opposite onenote Mar 2013 #155

The dress code never addressed guns explicitly ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #161

Might have been handled better. But truth is we don't need to be promoting guns in schools. Hoyt Mar 2013 #152

I see it more as an anti-public school/anti-public school teacher/anti-teacher union thing ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #162

pictures of guns kill people... ileus Mar 2013 #164

guns kill people. look in your news. spanone Mar 2013 #167