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In reply to the discussion: Are the Feminist / MRA Argument Threads a means to "Divide and Conquer" DU - POLL [View all]FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)15. Agreed
but does that necessitate excluding issues important to men
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Are the Feminist / MRA Argument Threads a means to "Divide and Conquer" DU - POLL [View all]
FreakinDJ
Dec 2013
OP
It's odd how much mature wisdom sometimes resembles being too tired to bother
Fumesucker
Dec 2013
#10
i do not believe that to be true. too often i have a good conversation, whether agreement or not is
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#106
Sorry, Tree, my girlfriends are smoking hot, highly sexual and liberal. They are also polite, kind,
grahamhgreen
Dec 2013
#195
Can you describe what the difference is between competing in a feminine way vs.
PassingFair
Dec 2013
#355
Masculinity and femininity are socially constructed ideals that should be deconstructed.
Gravitycollapse
Dec 2013
#417
Um, I would venture to guess that DU consists of an overwhelming majority of feminists...
demmiblue
Dec 2013
#27
You might want to explain that to the 17 people who recommended the thread.
lumberjack_jeff
Dec 2013
#358
Wow, 17 whole DUers agreed? Well hell, we should send a memo to the millions of other feminists
redqueen
Dec 2013
#370
again lumberjack it was a thread of discussion, done in respect. not something to hide,
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#376
The belief that men can't be feminists is a legitimate viewpoint, and is obviously widely held.
lumberjack_jeff
Dec 2013
#466
Not clicking your link, because it is more than likely shit-stirring for the sake of shit-stirring.
demmiblue
Dec 2013
#48
Don't tell me what I have by guessing. If I did the same to the HOFers, they'll jump all over my...
NoOneMan
Dec 2013
#67
he thinks it is a gotcha moment. i actually think it is a very good conversation about
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#167
You should have clicked it before you said it 'more than likely shit-stirring for the sake of
sabrina 1
Dec 2013
#185
when most all of your posts have to include a diss against hof, even though you did not specifically
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#142
+1,000,000 I tried to read the last few days "feminist" post and have come to the conclusion
Drew Richards
Dec 2013
#226
if you will look at the very long discussion we had in the thread, you will see a lot of respect,
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#105
quit. just quit. this is your crap. this is a discussion board. no leaders. NONE. quit that
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#462
i had that sent to me in pm. one person will not be alerting on my posts for a day.....
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#485
Jury: Agreed that this is feminist-bashing. Having read several other posts by this person ..
Coyotl
Dec 2013
#95
i do not believe we are nasty to people. i am sorry you feel that way and feel the need to
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#107
Ya. True. I guess we could get a little clarity if we all strove towards civility and understanding
NoOneMan
Dec 2013
#104
Consider Occam's Razor. Maybe people think you are just being utterly rude and nasty
NoOneMan
Dec 2013
#119
a PSA made in india addressing what they feel is a very real issue is "insulting"?
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#164
she was specific and you dismissed. when just putting soemthing up with nothing and being called as
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#330
No, it's because you're too resenful to realize and accept that women's issues are HUMAN issues
whathehell
Dec 2013
#160
On DU, MRA is apparently defined as a man not agreeing with a certain group of women.
RC
Dec 2013
#45
Actual Feminism, yes, DU's brand, by the select group of suspects here, not so much.
RC
Dec 2013
#168
RC, referring to people as "suspects" is never a good idea if you wish to sell your idea.
CTyankee
Dec 2013
#177
this one, a PSA from india. that 130 recommended. and many voices. is your issue. not a handful.
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#232
Wait, you didn't see her as a suspect before, but now you are starting to see one?
boston bean
Dec 2013
#248
Yep and I have checked it several times and haven't had to up date for quite sometime.
RC
Dec 2013
#266
One letter shy of "NRA." Talking Points, too! One acronym, many self-packaged slurs.
Eleanors38
Dec 2013
#213
Here, this says most of what needs to be said on these issues much better than I could
Spider Jerusalem
Dec 2013
#50
how about sexual brutality? Just a thought. It might get more play across the sexes and economic
Drew Richards
Dec 2013
#234
Sexual brutality is the act. Rape culture is the societal attitudes and practices
Squinch
Dec 2013
#452
I stand humbled those two defining adjectives are the best way to describe it hands down.
Drew Richards
Dec 2013
#491
I think that Nuclear Dem was saying that rape is about rape, and no one should be raped.
Squinch
Dec 2013
#450
women probably started the movement on this issue. i know on du, us feminists are the ones that
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#109
you would be wrong. not from the start. though, many did come on board, in time.
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#115
Well I'm positive you didn't read every post then, because I saw and participated in,
polly7
Dec 2013
#120
Na ...... it was a lot more people than you and redqueen way back then, right from the start. nt.
polly7
Dec 2013
#124
YES! The Feminist men in my family and my life know this and they love and respect the feminist
CTyankee
Dec 2013
#91
In terms of the average voter - How do you think that "Ranks" for a vote deciding issue
FreakinDJ
Dec 2013
#24
What does that have to do with what I posted? Whether or not something is a voting issue does not
cui bono
Dec 2013
#34
People did ask LGBT and black posters that question, often, during the primaries.
redqueen
Dec 2013
#42
The problem is when violence is conflated with looking at a girl who is dressed to kill.
grahamhgreen
Dec 2013
#217
Half of those 200 some-odd are probably from here, looking for "material" to be outraged about.
MADem
Dec 2013
#377
are we feminists allowed to address the man we should speak femininely and wear sundresses,
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#443
Between the first women's right's convention and women getting the vote, there
Squinch
Dec 2013
#459
yes. i do believe that staying silent in sexism only allows it to grow. and yes, i will
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#460
Sorry sea but you have called women/fellow feminists because we haven't joined in certain threads
maddezmom
Dec 2013
#468
i am not gonna argue or try to defend such a general statement but i can absolutely agree with the
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#470
So you think certain feminists are exempt from Community Standards?
Waiting For Everyman
Dec 2013
#506
Did you read the articles I linked? This isn't about "bad behavior", but about changing laws.
redqueen
Dec 2013
#439
Did I SAY it was "all about women"? He's saying feminist topics should be banned from GD.
redqueen
Dec 2013
#250
I find it really unfortunate that any progressives think women's issues are 'fringe'
Matariki
Dec 2013
#65
It's impossible to know who the trolls are and who the genuine posters are.
liberal_at_heart
Dec 2013
#128
wouldnt it be nice that ALL agree. unfortantely that has not been the case. we see it in abortion,
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#148
No, but I find I'm able to cover everything I enjoy posting about regarding injustices
polly7
Dec 2013
#279
It's not my narrative either libodem. When you look around the globe at
liberal_at_heart
Dec 2013
#118
If you disagree with some here you're just a pathetic "eager female cohort" to the men.
tammywammy
Dec 2013
#154
Sadly I don't think there will ever be actual discussion on these topics on DU. n/t
tammywammy
Dec 2013
#516
guts? she expressed her opinion. no one said a word. lol. it is as it should be. lmfao
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#258
I'm sorry, you're spouting MRA garbage. I know, cause I read it in the HOF.
Comrade Grumpy
Dec 2013
#135
so, we exclude womens issues on a progressive board? that is odd. how about class issues?, racisim
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#150
this was the post you concured with. i do not know what i did wrong in interpretating you agreed
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#178
feminists actually think that feminist issue are issues about women. but, thank you. i may have
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#184
conversation. i do love. really, lol. PSA from india. that would be a subject some may see
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#198
back.... and ya. some of use see the harm in giving "a woman scorned" because we understand how
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#257
People see the alerts. They don't have to know who alerts to know they're bs alerts.
kcr
Dec 2013
#527
Really Violet? Sincerely, you think feminist issues ought not be posted in GD?
boston bean
Dec 2013
#549
"hitting on people should be a rarity, that time when all the planets align." Seriously?
grahamhgreen
Dec 2013
#556
Seriously? Lovers already know each other, obviously, so that's completely unrelated to this issue.
redqueen
Dec 2013
#581
I guess it's OK if she's wearing a sundress but don't stare at any of those masculine women in suits
PassingFair
Dec 2013
#431
OMG I live in Hollywood, it happens everyday. I actually find it flattering.
grahamhgreen
Dec 2013
#557
Not bad, but I have asked some women what they were listening to on their mobile device and its led
grahamhgreen
Dec 2013
#561
Good in theory, but sometimes there is a loneliness that only love can fill.
grahamhgreen
Dec 2013
#565
Those threads divided and conquered DU for a few days before and during Christmas.
Vashta Nerada
Dec 2013
#110
This poll presumes that all we should be talking about here is the 2014 midterms.
DanTex
Dec 2013
#143
please point out where a single post from junior or otherwise feminist uses all men in anything.
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#181
i am sorry. personal ownership is important to me. as is truth. the foundation of what i post.
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#202
thank you. i can easily keep my eyes open to any feminist suggesting it is all men, at any time,
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#212
Thanks! That's it exactly, IMO. I think feminism without femininity breeds patriarchy, as it puts
grahamhgreen
Dec 2013
#223
yup. and dare to say eeeew, to a man that demands women be his version of feminine to be heard.
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#265
As didn't anyone else here. I guess whatever point you were thinking you made was
polly7
Dec 2013
#314
Well yeah, I did just claim it. Because it's true. Your posts are STILL here. nt.
polly7
Dec 2013
#393
Jeebus, calm down.... seriously? you are suggesting kcr calm down as you have reamed her thru out
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#410
I've 'reamed her'!!! yes!!!!! you really do not get it when i say i stop reading your posts
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#432
Well I certainly know of no one else who's harvested delicate, personal information
polly7
Dec 2013
#303
Or you conveniently miss all the nasty bullshit when it's directed towards those
polly7
Dec 2013
#365
lol lol. and CALM down. someone is gonna have to define feminine for me though. nt
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#412
you did it a third time... lol. ah hahahah. got to this point i see. and the dots are connected.
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#394
sheeeit, we have the sundresses on now, we will be safe. and... heard. hear me roar, lol. nt
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#416
i am gigglin'. you are making me giggle. this thread was worth every womans shock
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#486
I could swear I read that, but maybe I'm just dreaming that I live in crazy town.
Squinch
Dec 2013
#534
So, women in business meetings should be wearing sundresses because then they'll get more dates?
Squinch
Dec 2013
#574
Wow. That's pretty ridiculous. Unless you're over 80. Which is what I am guessing.
Squinch
Dec 2013
#592
No, I love my mineshaft! In my view, women feeling compelled to wear suits to a business meeting
grahamhgreen
Dec 2013
#597
Because obviously it's normal and natural and "correct" for women to wear... sundresses?
MadrasT
Dec 2013
#544
Yes, ladies, it is completely normal and natural for women to wear sundresses:)
grahamhgreen
Dec 2013
#571
Come on, then--something for everyone. The fight isn't over until men feel free to
MADem
Dec 2013
#548
yes kcr. this is how i see it. and this is what the suggestion reminded me of. we know,
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#397
not one feminist has accused any du man a rapist. and not one feminsit has claimed all du men
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#423
i type words. plain and simple. if somebody reads something into it, i will clarify. anyone can
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#469
i know that is NOT what you were going for. why i pause.... and will pay attention later.
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#484
Feminism has it's own section in topics. Shouldn't all posts be in the Feminism
sarcasmo
Dec 2013
#183
no discussion of womens issues in GD? AA and lbgt has its own forum. no race or gay issues
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#186
Let it get over run by one topic then the section becomes dominated by one topic.
sarcasmo
Dec 2013
#187
i can hear you on that. what i cannot see though, a PSA that is valued, appreciated by many, seeing
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#215
Where's the option for "It's what passes for a hobby, for a group of people who dearly miss META"
Warren DeMontague
Dec 2013
#194
I think the people who endlessly argue back and forth and back and forth might want
liberal_at_heart
Dec 2013
#200
Personally I like to concentrate my efforts on working with men and women
liberal_at_heart
Dec 2013
#224
You're kidding, right? Did you see the links I gave you? Anti-semitism is a huge issue here.
stevenleser
Dec 2013
#267
it was not strawman steven, it was experience. i am well aware of your argument. i know what you
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#287
It's a total strawman. I said one thing, you changed it to mean something else.
stevenleser
Dec 2013
#495
your whole post is about feminists shutting up about porn. YOU do not get to tell us feminists what
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#501
No, it's not. That is your strawman. You dont get to tell me what my words are after twisting them.
stevenleser
Dec 2013
#502
bullshit. you and i both know the difference you refer about the two waves. your fuckin porn.
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#507
Two of your favorite underhanded tactics in one subject line. Strawman and accusation of "my porn"
stevenleser
Dec 2013
#511
I didn't think you were, stevenleser. I have my suspicions as to whom it is and, it is not you. n/t
Tuesday Afternoon
Dec 2013
#523
Although I have to say I agree with the alert, even if I didn't push the button myself.
stevenleser
Dec 2013
#526
I think she meant it as the general you not, the personal you. That is how I took it.
Tuesday Afternoon
Dec 2013
#528
Yep, she did as you note. She and several other folks routinely accuse people of that who
stevenleser
Dec 2013
#532
steven.... we have had conversation about this for a very long time. no, it is not the
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#538
but, you argue porn is fine and has value. so it is not an insult to you. there is nothing wrong
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#536
No, that is not what I argue. Are we going to set a strawman record for you in this thread?
stevenleser
Dec 2013
#540
so you, will define what we are allowed to discuss? nah. doesnt work that way steven.
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#271
we already went thru the attempted purge of some feminist discussion. it failed.
seabeyond
Dec 2013
#277
Yeah, I can't wait to see the answer to that one, since only the admins would be able to do such a
stevenleser
Dec 2013
#496
Sorry... it sounded as if you were criticizing someone for trying to shut down your group.
lumberjack_jeff
Dec 2013
#566
The wars would NOT be "never ending", because the posters would be banned immediately.
PassingFair
Dec 2013
#418
I think these are legitimate issues. I stay away from most the threads though
Number23
Dec 2013
#227
I am not afraid I'm going to get raped every time I leave the house like women
liberal_at_heart
Dec 2013
#230
thank you for only taking a part of what I said and disregarding the rest.
liberal_at_heart
Dec 2013
#239
There was no argument. Your intentions may be good but that comment was exactly why
Number23
Dec 2013
#269
You know nothing about me, but go on believing that you can judge the entirety of who I am based
liberal_at_heart
Dec 2013
#278
If you'd rather put me on ignore than check your own cultural biases, that's on you
Number23
Dec 2013
#281
This thread shows that DU is at least finally admitting that there are MRA posters here.
Squinch
Dec 2013
#348
I'm starting to see it as similar to how Bush needed to invent terra in Iraq ...
polly7
Dec 2013
#509
That is an interesting observation. It certainly is a lot of time and effort invested
stevenleser
Dec 2013
#513
That is not an MRA. Not even close. 10 seconds on an actual MRA website will show you that.
stevenleser
Dec 2013
#499
Considering some of the sites you've linked to and the ugly crap you've introduced here
polly7
Dec 2013
#391
I find it interesting that a thread on one of these subjects was posted a couple hours after this:
Vashta Nerada
Dec 2013
#489
It's not only intended to disrupt, it's inherently and entirely a strawman.
lumberjack_jeff
Dec 2013
#490
There is not one person on DU who self-identifies as a Republican troll. Is that evidence there are
seaglass
Dec 2013
#545
If one is truly a supporter of equality, evaluate each argument against the equal rights amendment.
lumberjack_jeff
Dec 2013
#564
Give me an example of a sexually discriminatory law that would pass ERA muster. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Dec 2013
#586
SIMPLE... This recent madness needs to be discussed in one or more of the gender forums.
NYC_SKP
Dec 2013
#595