General Discussion

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Confusion on the part of liberal men who mistakenly think all men are targets of all feminists. And the confusion of some junior feminist women, excited with the new found weapon of feminist ideology, targeting all men as oppressors and occasionally focus their attacks on the more vulnerable, Beta males, to grab an easy victory.

The mistake of these junior feminists is to mix the "Beta" males, who are probably often liberal men who've also been victimized by "Alpha" males through a corrupt masculine ethos and who would otherwise be on the side of feminist women. The mistake of these men is to equate the misguided judgement and sloppy aim of exuberant junior feminists with actual feminism.


Neither one of the two actors described in this conflict is correct.

Not all feminist women are blaming all men. Only the ones bad at feminism. And there will, in fact be some who mistakenly think all men are the enemy or need to be "taught."

Not all men (or, for that matter, liberal men) are anti-feminist misogynists. Only the bad ones who overreact to the pronouncements of amateur feminists or equate attacks on corrupt misogynists as attacks on all men. Not so. As long, as you know you are not a misogynist and are not being personally called out, feel free not to include yourself in that category.

But to get back to so-called "feminists' that target all men. This is a complex issue that need further clarification.

The men who get offended by these "feminists" should understand that these women are "feminists" in name only. They are actually "feminists" who, in their effort to compete with men - and I don't discount there are some like this - have gone beyond true feminism straight into the realm of the corrupted masculine ethos. In other words, they have left feminism behind and adopted the competitive, cutthroat ethos historically associated with the masculine culture. What you are objecting to in these seemingly rabid "feminists" is not actual feminism but the corrupted, dog-eat-dog masculine ethos of the "Alpha male" oppressor.

I imagine many junior feminists equate equality with men as competing and defeating men at their own game. This is a junior mistake. Adopting the game of your oppressor is not a victory for feminism. Making the members of the oppressive group adapt to your culture is.

The mistake all are making here is that your gender does not necessarily equal your culture. A male can adopt feminist culture just as easily, and even more intently, as a female can adopt a corrupted masculine culture. And vice versa. You can't assume someone is a misogynist or feminist based on their gender. You have to look at their behavior.

We all need to be better at distinguishing who is what without relying on gender.

Men need to stop equating feminism with male bashing.

And junior feminists need to stop using all men, some as much victims of corrupted masculine culture as they are, as stepping stones to "victory" over all men. You are not helping your cause by conquering those that should be recognized as your allies. You are reinforcing the cause of your oppressor.