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58. If those guys had to work for less pay than their

Reply to Old and In the Way (Original post)

Thu Feb 20, 2014, 10:42 AM

Feb 2014

women counterparts, and if they had to always be careful when going into dark parking lots alone or run a very high risk that their spouses will beat or murder them (especially when pregnant), if whatever they think or say will not be taken seriously because they are good looking (and if they are not great looking then they are discarded and humiliated because their only good use is for sexing) and whenever a woman interviews them for a job, or orders from them at a restaurant those women will always makes crude remarks about their bodies and stare at their crotches while ordering pancakes. They also have to be careful what they wear - they don't want to be a 'prude' for fucks sake but they also can't 'be asking for it' all the time - oh, and they'd have to watch who they drink with every minute because it would be their own damn fault if they got drunk and someone abused or assaulted them.

If some of you don't get this by now, it's because you don't want to and it's a waste of time and energy to explain.

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I am wondering if this would be considered an example of gender objectification? [View all] Old and In the Way Feb 2014 OP

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #1

I am wondering if I am going to trash this thread PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #2

+1 and it's a callout. nt laundry_queen Feb 2014 #23

It meets the standard 1awake Feb 2014 #3

Wow, it looks like that was in the lounge and not GD gollygee Feb 2014 #4

So the SI cover would have been OK had it been posted in the Lounge? Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #9

I wouldn't have. n/t gollygee Feb 2014 #10

A double standard is better than no standard at all n/t Fumesucker Feb 2014 #5

It's actually worse./NT DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #7

That's different! MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #6

You are prescient! Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #12

No doubt. In_The_Wind Feb 2014 #18

you went to a really old post in order to call out a DUer treestar Feb 2014 #8

"it is not the same thing" Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #11

that's like saying it's OK for white people to complain about "racism" over affirmative action treestar Feb 2014 #14

So that old post was basically righting a wrong? nt MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #16

In your mind there's some kind of equivalence, Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #20

I didn't see anything in the link that suggested... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author Orrex Feb 2014 #169

There is no point attempting to discuss it. Those who were there may remember, redqueen Feb 2014 #27

I figured as much JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #31

. boston bean Feb 2014 #39

Ugh. Vile. redqueen Feb 2014 #43

He's been flagged for review 2 times, due to two hidden posts boston bean Feb 2014 #46

misogyny creates page clicks. nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #49

this type of behavior really catches my eye. boston bean Feb 2014 #52

I actually did forget he said that about rape, and his having "a happy ending". redqueen Feb 2014 #65

So, just so I get this straight Scootaloo Feb 2014 #151

yeah, aren't we lucky. boston bean Feb 2014 #167

Wow JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #51

So let me ask you this JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #48

Some of the posts were over the top and I would have voted to hide them. That being said... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #57

there was no log. the OP is flinging shit boston bean Feb 2014 #80

"But eye candy is eye candy" - How true! Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #94

Did you read the thread? boston bean Feb 2014 #100

Yeah...that "winky" smile underscores her point, too. Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #122

I have no animus toward the OP or the person he was referring to. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #99

the post he links to was from 2009 in the lounge. boston bean Feb 2014 #104

"Read the thread and see." redqueen Feb 2014 #118

How are intaglio and seabeyond holding up? pintobean Feb 2014 #70

do you do ANYTHING at DU besides pick fights with feminists? geek tragedy Feb 2014 #72

Sometimes I post pics pintobean Feb 2014 #78

Okay. Anyhow, since you're in here supporting this guy, you waive any geek tragedy Feb 2014 #90

By your twisted logic pintobean Feb 2014 #108

Wow. sufrommich Feb 2014 #75

Who needs a white night when they can have Prince Charming? RBStevens Feb 2014 #93

Skinner has TWICE looked at this guy's history and said "you know what, geek tragedy Feb 2014 #96

Yep, it's obvious it's all about the clicks and we just need to face it. I've been here since 2001 seaglass Feb 2014 #116

Very interesting profile of the OP indeed, and he doesn't have many lib points of view, does he? Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #102

Such a twisted fuck should not be allowed to stay here. nt. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #150

That's not very nice. nt Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #170

"women learn to objectify?" You mean they haven't yet? Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #147

OY DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #13

Dunno...but this thread is total META Rex Feb 2014 #15

yeah as are about half of GD these days arely staircase Feb 2014 #129

My problem with the T and A threads is/was that DU is an inappropriate forum./NT DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #17

jeeze.... Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #19

Just like bursting balloons.... Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #22

1. I used to post those IN RESPONSE TO THREADS OBJECTIFYING WOMEN. redqueen Feb 2014 #24

To recap, those (a few more I have seen) Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #35

Like I said in another thread - some people change over time and some remain stagnant. n/t seaglass Feb 2014 #25

The person who started this OP recently had a particularly nasty callout post hidden. redqueen Feb 2014 #28

link? Electric Monk Feb 2014 #30

see post 39. boston bean Feb 2014 #40

Oh I know that and he has also had a time out (not the 5 hide time outs) for repeated seaglass Feb 2014 #32

Flagged for review? pintobean Feb 2014 #44

I have a member? Who is it? n/t seaglass Feb 2014 #47

She's also on her 3rd five-hide time-out pintobean Feb 2014 #59

Don't know what you're talking about or why you're telling me this. Very odd. n/t seaglass Feb 2014 #62

that poster spends every day at DU baiting feminists. all he does geek tragedy Feb 2014 #73

For the record. Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #137

He can't answer you pintobean Feb 2014 #141

I though geek was a female....huh. Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #165

Your posts speak for you, no need for the disclaimer. n/t seaglass Feb 2014 #164

I can only imagine how that poster would love to participate in this discussion. Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #74

so you could sexually harass her? geek tragedy Feb 2014 #82

There's a story behind this. polly7 Feb 2014 #97

Thank you polly7! Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #109

It's ok ... I knew right off what that post was referring to. nt. polly7 Feb 2014 #113

Admit to being hammered that night...not one of my best showings on DU. Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #106

That is the post you are hanging your hat on to justify your behavior? boston bean Feb 2014 #130

Oh, it was a bit more than that .... polly7 Feb 2014 #135

The density it thick around here: boston bean Feb 2014 #136

She used it as a description of women. polly7 Feb 2014 #143

She used the term to describe how some men view women. boston bean Feb 2014 #144

She tried hard to imply men 'here' had been referring to women in that disgusting way. polly7 Feb 2014 #149

She was posting in a thread where the term MILF was being tossed around and joke about. boston bean Feb 2014 #152

Lmao. polly7 Feb 2014 #154

I see my posts probably more often than you do, because I type them out. boston bean Feb 2014 #159

uhhhh ....... polly7 Feb 2014 #162

IOKIYAAHOF Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #157

Oh my JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #36

Funny how calling out women is a-o-k at DU3 but calling out miosgynists gets a post hidden every geek tragedy Feb 2014 #45

Just looking for guidance from the experts on gender objectification. Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #53

no, you're trolling and baiting feminists, as you've done repeatedly geek tragedy Feb 2014 #56

I take it my example in the OP is not in violation of your community standards Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #60

if you had an agenda other than excusing and enabling misogyny I might geek tragedy Feb 2014 #66

Why so angry? Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #79

Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #84

Not a lib, but a poseur, of which there are a few on DU. Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #103

I agree of course, but look at all the false balance BS being pushed by some. nt redqueen Feb 2014 #111

Probably because they're unaware of what's going on and are tag-alongs to anything? Not me... Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #117

There's even a gay joke in that thread. pintobean Feb 2014 #26

No you're not. Iggo Feb 2014 #29

The caption "Because the balance is off" CLEARLY indicates a PassingFair Feb 2014 #33

Oh no, I think the people repeatedly showing that they have no intention of engaging in thoughtful redqueen Feb 2014 #37

This is starting to get on my nerves. PassingFair Feb 2014 #41

I agree! Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #38

You obviously flunked Common Decency 101 PassingFair Feb 2014 #42

But I aced Hypocrisy Awareness! nt Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #50

No, you aced right wingerism. nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #105

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #34

Wow. This OP is pathetic. jeff47 Feb 2014 #54

You can tell how much discussion those posts generated on the subject Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #63

Or you could keep being small and petty. jeff47 Feb 2014 #67

What's good for the goose is good for the gawker. Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #71

Sure was! About what you stand for and believe. nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #107

"try growing from the experience." Orrex Feb 2014 #81

The difference is the goal. jeff47 Feb 2014 #86

Again, you assume your own righteousness Orrex Feb 2014 #142

Heh. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #55

Imagine how silly women would look if they posed like those men. Orrex Feb 2014 #155

If those guys had to work for less pay than their Whisp Feb 2014 #58

Thank you for trying once again to explain. nt redqueen Feb 2014 #69

"it's because you don't want to and it's a waste of time and energy to explain." geek tragedy Feb 2014 #76

I'm willing to bet that those male models earn substantially less than their female counterparts Orrex Feb 2014 #85

and here we go, off the rails again... and the points zoom & whoosh. n/t Whisp Feb 2014 #92

Yep. Straining at gnats while swallowing camels. redqueen Feb 2014 #114

There we go again, assuming that one point of disagreement equals wholesale rejection. Orrex Feb 2014 #146

The post itself is fine - but if you admit you liked the pics, you are objectifying a human The Straight Story Feb 2014 #61

W's junk/package JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #64

Whoa. Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #68

Are you trying to start some crap? gopiscrap Feb 2014 #77

Me? Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #112

Is this post an example of a misogynist pig sexually harassing women geek tragedy Feb 2014 #83

impunity pintobean Feb 2014 #91

and here he is, allowed to continue harassing women despite numerous examples geek tragedy Feb 2014 #95

Funny, I had a post hidden merely for posting a link .... oldhippie Feb 2014 #110

You're correct, but it's from 2009. If we go to all the suggestive posts since then... Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #87

How about this? Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #119

Your obsession with "feminist" as a pejorative term, ALONE... Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #127

As a straight man all I have to say is: dilby Feb 2014 #88

As a straight woman, I agree with you. In_The_Wind Feb 2014 #98

Sexuality is fluid and can't be put in boxes... Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #101

You can't make this up LittleBlue Feb 2014 #89

At this point I'm disgusted by everyone whatchamacallit Feb 2014 #115

Start a thread about it! JVS Feb 2014 #121

Nope, got better stuff to do n/t whatchamacallit Feb 2014 #123

+ 1 nt arely staircase Feb 2014 #125

game, set arely staircase Feb 2014 #120

anyone posted the jury reults on this because you damn well know arely staircase Feb 2014 #124

If so it sure as shit wasn't me. He is doing a fine job. Post 39 is gold. redqueen Feb 2014 #126

The OP's own words (in his posts) define him, don't they? nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #131

Indisputably. nt redqueen Feb 2014 #138

uh huh. nt arely staircase Feb 2014 #132

This message was self-deleted by its author redqueen Feb 2014 #145

I agree. I'm all for letting this OP stand. sufrommich Feb 2014 #134

Exactly. IMO it should result in more than just increased awareness. redqueen Feb 2014 #139

I'm confused now. See post #24, There is no gender objectification. Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #148

I'm tired of trashing this shit, and I wish you cool kids would take it to the parking lot. /nt Marr Feb 2014 #128

Interesting.... Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #133

The Ouroboros brigade is on it's way. GoneOffShore Feb 2014 #153

This shows that you have a serious personal problem. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #140

"Your op is a 100% reflection of you, not redqueen." Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #160

And consistent you are....well in some areas.....well minus the two gbcw ops you started. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #168

Please keep your promise. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #156

I just can't quit DU. Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #161

I don't know about that, but this thread certainly is MineralMan Feb 2014 #158

That's what makes us unique! Old and In the Way Feb 2014 #163

friggen disgraceful. Whisp Feb 2014 #166

The stench of your bile UtahLib Feb 2014 #171

Locking- The host consensus is this is disruptive Meta. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #172