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MADem

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79. I have to wonder about people who make everything about sex.

Sat May 24, 2014, 06:39 AM

May 2014

Equality is a plank in our party platform, after all--to us, it's as good as settled law...it's just the GOP that needs to catch up.

When people start using the particulars of a person's orientation as a cudgel in a political debate--particularly on a left wing forum--though, I gotta say What's Up With THAT?

Talk about a blunt instrument...and a complete failure to argue the merits!

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Every single person who refers to Glenn Greenwald as GG is using a homophobic meme. [View all] Luminous Animal May 2014 OP

I was just thinking this evening that the people demanding to know why he wasn't in the US, LeftyMom May 2014 #1

Poitras doesn't put herself out there--that's why. MADem May 2014 #63

It's beyond disgusting. joshcryer May 2014 #73

I have to wonder about people who make everything about sex. MADem May 2014 #79

You think a Greenwald's identity as a gay man is "about sex"? LeftyMom May 2014 #135

No--I think YOU do, as evidenced by your doubling and tripling down on a false accusation. MADem May 2014 #169

So you only hate homosexuals when using your phone MannyGoldstein May 2014 #81

Apparently. joshcryer May 2014 #83

Anything whatsoever we post can be construed as a hate crime these days MannyGoldstein May 2014 #84

Wrong link? joshcryer May 2014 #85

Yes, wrong link MannyGoldstein May 2014 #87

Wonder what it means when we type EW or BO or HC or for that matter....POTUS!!!? VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #101

I can't speak for the OP but I'm not veiling shit, thinly or otherwise. LeftyMom May 2014 #134

No, you're coming right out and endorsing a false charge. MADem May 2014 #167

So your problem isn't reporting on the leaks, it's being visible while doing it? LeftyMom May 2014 #148

My "problem" --- as you call it -- is false accusations of homophobia, MADem May 2014 #166

So you think every single person knows what the right wing called him during the Bush years? pnwmom May 2014 #2

It's a big stretch Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #5

Stop Using "DU" jberryhill May 2014 #15

No, pnwmom may have a point here........ wandy May 2014 #131

Great question. Why is she so familiar with what the "rightwing" was doing? n/t Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #203

Those are his initials: I'm a poor typist and sometimes use GG to save keystrokes struggle4progress May 2014 #3

I smell bullshit. What other names do you abbreviate due to your poor, poor typing skills? morningfog May 2014 #165

I'm sure you do "smell bullshit". Cha May 2014 #180

I'm a good typist and use "GG" interchangably with "Greenwald" "Glenn" or Cha May 2014 #182

The OP uses it too. MADem May 2014 #223

Thank you for that.. it was Ridiculous before and now it's just in the Cha May 2014 #226

Hypocritical, at the least. MADem May 2014 #228

Oh, that's right.. I get it now why it can't be "deleted".. nm Cha May 2014 #229

Probably would have been long gone by now, otherwise... nt MADem May 2014 #230

We never would have had the hypocrisy written down for Posterity. nm Cha May 2014 #232

Oh snap! MA, I dub thee "Hypocrite Slayer". I'm hoping you'll get a response, but that ain't gonna Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #238

It's a real "Do As I Say, Not As I Do" attitude up in here, I guess! nt MADem May 2014 #239

Links? ucrdem May 2014 #4

I don't see it. Maybe I'm too young to remember? Gravitycollapse May 2014 #6

Since when are someone's initials SheilaT May 2014 #7

It's just his initials (wink, wink) MNBrewer May 2014 #103

that's homophone, not homophobe nt arely staircase May 2014 #149

good god uppityperson May 2014 #8

Well, why did we spell Dubya all the way? jberryhill May 2014 #28

many just used *, I called him shrub or babybush uppityperson May 2014 #158

Actually, when we wanted to insult that assclown, we called him Dumbya instead of "W." nt MADem May 2014 #171

Oooh, you seem to have struck the expected nerves. LeftyMom May 2014 #9

Yes, the humerus nerve primarily jberryhill May 2014 #29

I'm genuinely offended. joshcryer May 2014 #75

Josh...I once had a post hidden for "homophobia" for calling GG a ratfucker. msanthrope May 2014 #93

I had a post hidden a few days ago AnalystInParadise May 2014 #152

You do understand the difference between calling a DUer "daft" and a non-DUer "daft?" nt msanthrope May 2014 #154

Yeah, the fuckingus bullshitticus nerve--and your little "OOOooooh" rofl piling on MADem May 2014 #76

LMAO...now referring to him by his initials is verboten... Cali_Democrat May 2014 #10

Yeah shenmue May 2014 #39

More than embarrassing themselves--they're showing their true colors. MADem May 2014 #173

They have ALWAYS embarrassed themselves. But this is extra face palm-y Number23 May 2014 #185

... savalez May 2014 #211

Absurd. Behind the Aegis May 2014 #11

Thank. You. Hekate May 2014 #13

thank you, that is my take also. uppityperson May 2014 #159

Thanks you! sheshe2 May 2014 #204

I thought it stood for Gay Gay, LuvLoogie May 2014 #12

Golly Gee! Goodness Gracious! jberryhill May 2014 #14

Good Game! Lancero May 2014 #138

BTW...he was never really "Bush's bane" when it counted Cali_Democrat May 2014 #16

Good point. Thanks. n/t pnwmom May 2014 #17

I'll be straight with you. I'm too young to know if what you are claiming of him is true... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #18

Here ya go Cali_Democrat May 2014 #19

Yep that's it. nt ucrdem May 2014 #21

As stated below, the preface to that book was a reflection on previous views which had changed... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #24

Like I said, his views "changed" only after the war became an unpopular clusterfuck... Cali_Democrat May 2014 #27

You haven't presented any evidence yet that he was a cheerleader for the Bush administration. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #32

LOL Cali_Democrat May 2014 #34

Yes, that is actually a marked improvement. He did support them as he himself has admitted. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #37

He has also railed against undocumented immigrants in the past Cali_Democrat May 2014 #40

Okay, but where is the evidence? I'm seriously asking and you haven't shown it. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #42

You asked me for evidence of his war-hawking and I gave it to you. Cali_Democrat May 2014 #45

Well, you said he was anti-immigrant. How so? Gravitycollapse May 2014 #49

Here ya go... Cali_Democrat May 2014 #53

Okay, but he recanted on that subject, giving a similar explanation as before Gravitycollapse May 2014 #56

He's 'recanted' quite a bit, hasn't he? randome May 2014 #104

Is twice quite a bit? Gravitycollapse May 2014 #161

No he didn't, he just said "it was long time ago" as if that exonerates his asshat views on the uponit7771 May 2014 #142

He always "recants" when his position becomes unpopular. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #210

Hillary Clinton: I cast my Iraq war vote "With Conviction" nationalize the fed May 2014 #61

How did you find out about Greenwald's views on the Iraq War?? sabrina 1 May 2014 #136

You mean "think tanks" like this one? Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #212

Thank you, and now we have talking point #2, the 'Cato Talking point'. Also refuted so often it's a sabrina 1 May 2014 #235

Well, you certainly know from "talking points". When you're not running around the board.... Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #236

Of course I do. I was hoping you would supply us with talking point #3. sabrina 1 May 2014 #245

Just for you! Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #246

I'm underwhelmed. Smarmie Doofus May 2014 #74

Yeah, "bush's bane".. :( nm thanks Cali Cha May 2014 #183

It's in the preface to How Would a Patriot Act ucrdem May 2014 #20

The preface to that book was a reflection on his past views and how they had changed... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #22

How could any sentient being living on the planet earth trust Cheney and Dumbya ucrdem May 2014 #25

Not buying what? That his political perspective changed? What is so hard to believe about that? Gravitycollapse May 2014 #31

I don't believe a word of it. A Manhattan lawyer politically isolated and uneducated ucrdem May 2014 #35

One of my best philosophy professors was a former Manhattan attorney... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #38

If Greenwald was teaching existential philosophy somewhere I might believe him. ucrdem May 2014 #41

He let his law license lapse much like President Obama. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #44

I would say Obama is making excellent use of his legal knowledge ucrdem May 2014 #50

Yes, whenever you can do so, I would greatly appreciate it if you could document it for me. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #52

here's a piece on lies he told about Miranda's arrest: ucrdem May 2014 #60

the unintended irony in this post is off the charts grasswire May 2014 #179

Um, no..his law licence is "suspended" as opposed to "lapsed." In NY state you can voluntarily msanthrope May 2014 #151

He seemed to have forgotten how close he was to being censured. Ikonoklast May 2014 #191

+1. Sibel Edmonds called him "an ambulance chasing style attorney". Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #215

70% of the population supported the Iraq invasion. Including leading Dems in Congress. Luminous Animal May 2014 #92

Are you calling Greenwald a Clinton supporter? ucrdem May 2014 #94

Ask all those Democrats who voted for Bush and Cheney's war. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #121

Greenwald was not to my knowledge an elected representative. nt ucrdem May 2014 #122

I have to wonder how anybody manages to stay apathetic until age 35 struggle4progress May 2014 #89

yeah, it makes no sense arely staircase May 2014 #108

Well, he says he was a constitutional lawyer, but he originally practiced corporate law, and struggle4progress May 2014 #110

Because he's full of shit. He ran locally, at age 17, on "The National States' Rights" ticket. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #216

Are you sure? I would happily repeat that, if I knew it were true, but struggle4progress May 2014 #217

I can't find the blurb right now. Perhaps I saved it on my home pc. Will check when I get home. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #220

Interesting! on Greenwald! Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #295

Same goes for Hillary Clinton MannyGoldstein May 2014 #82

If you have animus for Hillary Clinton & her Iraq vote… why not Greenwald? KittyWampus May 2014 #178

My position on this is clear MannyGoldstein May 2014 #189

I would love to see links Crunchy Frog May 2014 #129

it's the Tiger Beat crowd - what do you expect? Skittles May 2014 #23

I don't see how "GG" is homophobic. JohnnyRingo May 2014 #26

People have been using it in a... TDale313 May 2014 #48

I prefer BHO to BO, is less derisive imo. uppityperson May 2014 #160

But-but-but!!!! That "H" is for HUSSEIN, which must mean that you're making fun of him!!! MADem May 2014 #168

Heh. I mock those who think that of his middle name, wear it proudly to show them they are uppityperson May 2014 #177

Those people are anti-religious blessings, too, MADem May 2014 #184

Thank you for bringing this up. TDale313 May 2014 #30

What about married people who use it? jberryhill May 2014 #33

Wait, here's you in 2011 talking about how great it was that a dog was named GiGi after him... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #36

How did you search for that post without a star? HangOnKids May 2014 #43

google JI7 May 2014 #46

Hey thanks for reminding me that I never put you on ignore HangOnKids May 2014 #51

Cute. joshcryer May 2014 #77

I searched "Glenn Greenwald gigi" on Google because I wanted to see what came back... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #47

I think this thread is an insult to DUers because the thread starter is angry at people MADem May 2014 #66

I'm decidedly on the side of Greenwald. But an OP like this is bad news... Gravitycollapse May 2014 #68

Especially when the OP writer has used the GG term herself in the past. MADem May 2014 #222

It's rich. joshcryer May 2014 #78

How strange! I have a friend named Johnna. Named after her father but no one calls her father Johnna Luminous Animal May 2014 #90

Is her father's name Johnna? If it is, maybe saltpoint May 2014 #257

So cool that you came out of retirement to entertain us with your word salad. Double spaced! Luminous Animal May 2014 #260

LL Bean. No No Nanette. CSNY. saltpoint May 2014 #262

What does a 300 pound canary say. Luminous Animal May 2014 #268

If you have a canary that saltpoint May 2014 #269

We spoon. Luminous Animal May 2014 #271

It's very simple: THAT was a post by somebody who admired GG struggle4progress May 2014 #111

I'm confused. That post is by Oilwellian, not the OP of this thread. What am ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #132

Read the whole thread--the thread starter here was an enthused participant MADem May 2014 #174

And with that, this thread just became bookmarkable Number23 May 2014 #186

LOL Cali_Democrat May 2014 #207

But wait...there's MORE! MADem May 2014 #231

Here's the poster in 2012 USING the "GG" term griping about a post getting hidden. MADem May 2014 #224

Or they're just lazy and only feel like tapping the 'G' key twice Blue_Tires May 2014 #54

Good thing his letters aren't written by a secretary jberryhill May 2014 #55

Or trying to conserve space in the title/reply line itsrobert May 2014 #57

Is this a joke? Beearewhyain May 2014 #58

This is an accusation of HOMOPHOBIA and it is uncivil as hell. This thread is calling MADem May 2014 #64

It also, IMO, devalues homophobia. Behind the Aegis May 2014 #65

You're damn tooting. I think this thread is a huge step over that line. MADem May 2014 #67

Also, the OP hasn't returned to the thread that I see ... LisaLynne May 2014 #86

I know what you mean... MADem May 2014 #88

^^^ This davidpdx May 2014 #214

Also, the OP making the accusation USED THE TERM in a post her very self. MADem May 2014 #221

WOW, OMGoodness, MADem! The Blatant Hypocrisy is Stunning.. and this member of the Cha May 2014 #225

As they say in Tennis, Game, Set, Match. OP Loses 6-0, 6-0 in two golden sets. stevenleser May 2014 #249

Gigi yes, GG no. tammywammy May 2014 #59

You're shitting me. What kind of slur is ES for Edward Snowden? How about GWB and MADem May 2014 #62

..... saltpoint May 2014 #261

What a goofy statement. Demit May 2014 #69

JFK, FDR, RFK, LBJ, BHO... Drunken Irishman May 2014 #70

Gigi perhaps but not GG. maddezmom May 2014 #71

Bullshit. I use "GG" when posting on my phone. joshcryer May 2014 #72

Is it even worse than using "etc"? MannyGoldstein May 2014 #80

Omg, Manny, what is WRONG with you!! sabrina 1 May 2014 #133

Good Lord... Blue_In_AK May 2014 #153

I'm amazed no one's pounced for the use of "nags." WorseBeforeBetter May 2014 #198

I must have slipped under the radar. Blue_In_AK May 2014 #200

Guess that got under your skin Manny. sheshe2 May 2014 #205

I cannot live with this terrible shame. MannyGoldstein May 2014 #209

LA, this thread is disturbing because I find myself agreeing with MannyGoldstein msanthrope May 2014 #91

jesus, mary and joseph arely staircase May 2014 #95

JMJ, you mean? nt msanthrope May 2014 #98

LOL ucrdem May 2014 #102

What a crock! Whisp May 2014 #96

You posted this at 2 am EST, and have answered only one post..... msanthrope May 2014 #97

I think there's a word for such behavior, but it's somehow slipped me mind struggle4progress May 2014 #112

You used "EST" instead of "EDT"! Jim Lane May 2014 #144

This thread is so stupid it's spawning apologia threads for it. N.B.....this will not end well. nt msanthrope May 2014 #146

Sorry, but that never even crossed my mind. City Lights May 2014 #99

unfortunately, there has always been an undercurrent of homophobia with some of the Greenwald hate quinnox May 2014 #100

I don't think that's true. People use initials to abbreviate names MineralMan May 2014 #105

Now look, LA, you may be painting with too wide a brush here. randome May 2014 #106

be careful, using LA is like saying LA LA, and saying LA LA LAND Whisp May 2014 #119

Sorry about that, W. Whoops! Sorry about that, too! randome May 2014 #124

I was thinking of changing my name to Hisp because of that. Whisp May 2014 #128

Greenwald's "assumed feminity"? grasswire May 2014 #181

Greenwald's "assumed femininity"? (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter May 2014 #199

Sometime "GG" is just a pair of letters rock May 2014 #107

Sometimes it's just a horse. Denzil_DC May 2014 #114

LOL! Sometimes it's just a movie rock May 2014 #155

No, they're not... SidDithers May 2014 #109

Maybe some. Puglover May 2014 #113

Even when it's his Initials? Katashi_itto May 2014 #115

They know what they're doing. Iggo May 2014 #116

^^ this. nt laundry_queen May 2014 #123

Exactly. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter May 2014 #197

I know why you are making this ridiculous accusation: Whisp May 2014 #117

Yep, I think you got it. MADem May 2014 #118

That is fuckin' awesome. And it's pretty obvious you got under some skin. nt msanthrope May 2014 #143

I love it! Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #218

They're comparing him to GG Allin. Despicable. Throd May 2014 #120

and hot dogs nt arely staircase May 2014 #147

So can we call him "Glenwald" or something? LOL. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #125

'Gled Snowwald'. randome May 2014 #126

Edlenn Greendon Whisp May 2014 #130

BS - it's JUST his initials. 840high May 2014 #127

One of the silliest posts I've ever read on DU. Should we also speill out OregonBlue May 2014 #137

How about straight folks stop fighting equality, act like humans toward LGBT people for 10 minutes Bluenorthwest May 2014 #141

How about we all fight stupidity and not get our collective undies in a bunch over "GG"? Throd May 2014 #145

How is using GG instead of Glen Greenwals fighting equality? Silly. OregonBlue May 2014 #157

GG. There, I said it. Funny... ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #139

hitler nt arely staircase May 2014 #140

How about any less? Hassin Bin Sober May 2014 #175

How about none, before or after? I find it interesting how far you had to stretch to place doubt on ChisolmTrailDem May 2014 #188

Sorry. I couldn't resist the low hanging fruit. Hassin Bin Sober May 2014 #192

Ah they're fine with right wing memes. JoeyT May 2014 #150

+1 QC May 2014 #227

cry me a fucking river d_b May 2014 #156

I am a gay man and have no idea how calling him GG is homophobic. hrmjustin May 2014 #162

Thanks for writing this OKNancy May 2014 #164

I imagine this poster would liken calling Elizabeth Warren EW as the same as MADem May 2014 #170

Someone used the words Tigerbeat crowd. I think that describes Greenwald and Snowden fans stevenleser May 2014 #213

does he bellydance too? MisterP May 2014 #163

Hmm...that post was written by someone with a user name with the initials GG. MADem May 2014 #172

I don't embrace or reject terms depending on the GOP's opinion of them. winter is coming May 2014 #176

kick for hilarity. Whisp May 2014 #187

kick. nt msanthrope May 2014 #190

New issue of Tiger Beat out: Whisp May 2014 #193

Ok....that's hysterical!! nt msanthrope May 2014 #194

That's PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!! nt MADem May 2014 #196

+1. And they still don't see the irony. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #201

hahahahaha nt Cali_Democrat May 2014 #208

Nominated for best Tiger Beat cover of the year. nt ucrdem May 2014 #219

Whisp, you are simply the (wo)man Number23 May 2014 #234

I don't think we'll be hearing that Tiger Beat crap much anymore. Whisp May 2014 #252

What about those who called George Zimmerman GZ? fried eggs May 2014 #195

Everybody who high five'd that "gd used car salesman" post is a fucking racist. That how it works? Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #202

GG RandySF May 2014 #206

What an absurd post. xfundy May 2014 #233

My partner would be stunned to learn that I'm homophobic-especially after this morning! Rowdyboy May 2014 #237

Turns out the thread starter has used the "GG" term herself. MADem May 2014 #240

Apparently anyone disliking GG in any way is by her definition homophobic. Well I have no respect Rowdyboy May 2014 #241

+1 nt MADem May 2014 #242

Come back Luminous=(Fire)Animal=(Dog)! You & the 18 recc'ers should address post #223. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #243

Oh my....I never made THAT connection...! Now it ALL makes sense! nt MADem May 2014 #253

That's why her rants are so easy to dismiss. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #294

So does that include you too? Rex May 2014 #244

Yep. Tears were flowing down my face that night. I had 3 hidden posts in one night. Luminous Animal May 2014 #248

There is no absolute in it. GG are his initials. Just like HRC, people know who I am talking about. Rex May 2014 #250

More than "approving"---actually USING the "GG" term. It's high and deep, the hypocrisy. nt MADem May 2014 #255

Makes me wonder what does the MAD stand for in MADem. Rex May 2014 #256

I'll confess! MADem May 2014 #265

I miss our DU2 days and endless rants on Dubya. Withstanding GHB was bad enough Rex May 2014 #276

Seriously? If using a man's initials as shorthand is "homophobic" then NYC Liberal May 2014 #247

It evidently was a proactive backfire on DU. Rex May 2014 #251

I have a James Taylor album called JT. saltpoint May 2014 #254

Barak Hussein Obama. GG. Luminous Animal May 2014 #258

JD Salinger. Bebe Rebozzo. NOLA. saltpoint May 2014 #259

WWJD? Rex May 2014 #263

Ol' JC would be A-OK. Kind of his M.O. saltpoint May 2014 #266

ttl M.O. Rex May 2014 #278

Sing. Sing a song. Sing it loud. Sing it long. Luminous Animal May 2014 #264

Koko Taylor. Mimi Farina. BLT. saltpoint May 2014 #267

One of the Butt Sisters. Luminous Animal May 2014 #270

Papa John's. Papa's daughter Johnna. RPM. saltpoint May 2014 #272

See you've mastered the googling. Thank your grandchildren for the assist. Luminous Animal May 2014 #274

I make a respectable saltpoint May 2014 #275

Natch. Luminous Animal May 2014 #280

I agree-- some of them actually used to use Gigi, and now use "GG" because it's so Marr May 2014 #273

And those same people have no problem typing out "Obama". Luminous Animal May 2014 #277

Exactly! nt Mojorabbit May 2014 #293

GG could just change his name and obviate saltpoint May 2014 #279

Or. People could stop using the homophopic meme originated by the right wing when Greenwald Luminous Animal May 2014 #281

I'm not too damn interested in GG, now or then, saltpoint May 2014 #282

Post removed Post removed May 2014 #283

If there's a darlin' in the room what ain't makin' saltpoint May 2014 #284

You can lead a canary to water... Luminous Animal May 2014 #285

But not to H2O? EKG? BB guns? AA meetings? saltpoint May 2014 #286

Yew don even call me ba ma name. Luminous Animal May 2014 #287

"LA" it is, then. Desmond Tutu. Bobo the Clown. CTA. saltpoint May 2014 #288

So,I was was wondering what I should do next, I really had to pee but my cat was sitting on my lap. Luminous Animal May 2014 #289

Grace's friendship to Janis Joplin saltpoint May 2014 #292

Hey saltpoint.. LA used it herself in META so it cannot be deleted.. posted upthread Cha May 2014 #290

Cha, fond tidings, and yes, saltpoint May 2014 #291

Interesting! Every single person who refers to Glenn Greenwald as GG is using a homophobic meme Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #296