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In reply to the discussion: I Support The Actions Described By President Obama Tonight, Ladies And Gentlemen [View all]TheKentuckian
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Being dubious as can be that our actions for long can be so limited, I continue to prefer get out and stay out, there are too many moving parts and too many opportunities to use the same rationale for continuing involvement, if this was not the desired outcome the why did we go in over there in the first place because this became destiny and we are wholly incapable of getting the toothpaste back in the tube now.
It is terrible but sometimes the bell cannot be unrung, I can only advise we stop funding and arming these same fucks in Syria so they collapse instead of shooting ourselves in the foot with our pissing contest with Putin there. I advised against destabilizing Lydia as well but we went ahead with our "mercy mission" there and have made matters much worse while further increasing radical elements and helped further nurture the wider hard line, violently theocratic movement in the region.
We do not know what to we are doing in the region, as far as I can tell to date we have royally screwed the pooch and have inflamed radicalism seemingly beyond our comprehension in a very broad fashion all over the middle east.
I'm sure there are ways to potentially fix the situation but because of a combination of our values, the interests and aspirations of our dominant ruling class, and finite resources we are not up to the task and that what actions we do take tend heavily toward being wasteful and counterproductive.
I don't make the calls so I can only hope for the best but to pretend it is unreasonable to expect the worst is flat out absurd in context of history.