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In reply to the discussion: Quotes from the Greatest Progressive to Ever Live. [View all]NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)1. More from Glenn Greenwald:
Monday, October 24, 2005
Brazilians refuse to give up the right to bear arms
Here in Brazil, the country yesterday held a nationwide, single-issue referendum. The question: whether the country should ban the commercial sale of firearms. The result: roughly 66% against the gun ban, with only 34% in favor of it.
The lopsided rejection of the gun ban is extraordinary. When the referendum was first introduced, polls consistently showed a huge majority -- as much as 80% -- in favor. It was widely expected the gun ban would pass easily. Brazilians, living in a country with the second-highest gun-murder rate in the world (after Venezuela), instinctively favored proposals to ban the sale of guns as a quick fix for reducing the nation's rampant violence.
But as citizens became more informed and thought more rationally about the issue, their opinions changed radically. Brazilian television stations gave each side free commercial time to argue its position, ensuring fair and informed debate. As Brazilians thought more about the gun ban, opposition steadily grew, culminating in the astounding and lopsided defeat for the gun ban referendum.
Brazilian cities are plagued with epidemic gun violence. Organized criminal gangs based in the favelas (slums) of Brazilian cities are often better-armed than the police. Ordinary street criminals are well-stocked with firearms. And the perception is widespread among the citizenry that the Government is inept at providing its citizens with basic security and protection.
More at the link and well worth the read: http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2005/10/brazilians-refuse-to-give-up-right-to.html
Brazilians refuse to give up the right to bear arms
Here in Brazil, the country yesterday held a nationwide, single-issue referendum. The question: whether the country should ban the commercial sale of firearms. The result: roughly 66% against the gun ban, with only 34% in favor of it.
The lopsided rejection of the gun ban is extraordinary. When the referendum was first introduced, polls consistently showed a huge majority -- as much as 80% -- in favor. It was widely expected the gun ban would pass easily. Brazilians, living in a country with the second-highest gun-murder rate in the world (after Venezuela), instinctively favored proposals to ban the sale of guns as a quick fix for reducing the nation's rampant violence.
But as citizens became more informed and thought more rationally about the issue, their opinions changed radically. Brazilian television stations gave each side free commercial time to argue its position, ensuring fair and informed debate. As Brazilians thought more about the gun ban, opposition steadily grew, culminating in the astounding and lopsided defeat for the gun ban referendum.
Brazilian cities are plagued with epidemic gun violence. Organized criminal gangs based in the favelas (slums) of Brazilian cities are often better-armed than the police. Ordinary street criminals are well-stocked with firearms. And the perception is widespread among the citizenry that the Government is inept at providing its citizens with basic security and protection.
More at the link and well worth the read: http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2005/10/brazilians-refuse-to-give-up-right-to.html
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I don't think I've ever seen anyone call him "The greatest progressive ever to live."
Scootaloo
Oct 2014
#4
I'm a Greenwald fan but I have never seen anyone call him the Greatest Progressive to Ever Live
Autumn
Oct 2014
#5
I believe these to be Greenwald's quotes, but given your history, you need to provide a link.
DisgustipatedinCA
Oct 2014
#6
Yes, It has been obvious to all non-Greenwald Fanboys what he was about from the beginning, sir
stevenleser
Oct 2014
#15
Partially, yes. Orwell's full notes on nationalism where he describes negative nationalism
stevenleser
Oct 2014
#28
Thanks very much, I will search out all on that link to define this better for myself.
freshwest
Oct 2014
#29
Not just wrong, it would mean Dean was furthering “the great project of the modern right” and
Chathamization
Oct 2014
#37
That Would Be The Effect, Sir, Viewed Coldly, If Any Action Were Taken On The Proposition
The Magistrate
Oct 2014
#38
Right, so Dean’s exempt from the “right-wing libertarian” label because he isn’t anti-war.
Chathamization
Oct 2014
#42
Of course Greenwald's endorsement of multiple Democrats and praise of Obama doesn't matter to you
Chathamization
Oct 2014
#54
I've debunked all of that before. Here and now we have a chance to see what Greenwald and Snowden
stevenleser
Oct 2014
#31
You've debunked exactly nothing, and neither has been caught in a lie
DisgustipatedinCA
Oct 2014
#32
I have multiple times. And now we have an opportunity to see more of what they are about.
stevenleser
Oct 2014
#33
Telling that all the quotes are from ’05, since Greenwald has since said were uninformed and wrong
Chathamization
Oct 2014
#36
Like Some Others, Sir, He Seemed To Think That A Step Towards Making Single-Payer Viable Politically
The Magistrate
Oct 2014
#47
I'd say the onus is on the person digging up the 9 year old comment to: 1. Not truncate it in an
Chathamization
Oct 2014
#49
Do you have ANY evidence that "He mis-characterized Gov. Dean, in an attempt to make his own views
Chathamization
Oct 2014
#56
There Is No Evidence, Sir, For Describing Gov. Dean As A 'Fervent Proponent Of State's Rights'
The Magistrate
Oct 2014
#57