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Prophet 451

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36. Thank you, that answer the question

Tue Dec 2, 2014, 11:34 PM

Dec 2014

I'll happily agree that the current western diet includes an unhealthy amount of meat but I think pushing for veganism is a non-starter. You're not going to overturn 6,000 years of meat-eating. What can be done instead is to urge people to cut back on meat to a once-a-week luxury or something similar to that. Personally, I could easily cut my meat consumption back to maybe a pound a week. A few slices of pepperoni on pizza and Quorn substitutes for most of my meat intake (except my once-a-year steak for Xmas dinner). My bigger problem is dairy, I love cheese, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't possible to create some artificial alternative.

Also, I remember reading a couple of years ago that vat-grown meat (which cultures meat artificially and so, doesn't require farming space) was now possible, it's just a matter of perfecting the process to make it economical.

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I Ate Turkey on Thanksgiving and It Was DELICIOUS! [View all] titaniumsalute Dec 2014 OP

I rarely rec, but your OP deserves one for sure yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #1

We don't have Thanksgiving here (UK) Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #2

A friend of mine lives in the US now but is from Nova Scotia titaniumsalute Dec 2014 #4

The joke I heard from the Brits was ManiacJoe Dec 2014 #23

Lol, not heard that before! Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #26

HAHA! That's funny. nt laundry_queen Dec 2014 #50

Haha. n/t JimDandy Dec 2014 #54

And we seem to find a way to remind them of it every day AwakeAtLast Dec 2014 #87

Likely, battery farming has been banned because of the efforts of animal rights Luminous Animal Dec 2014 #61

Pushing animal welfare is not proselytizing their dietry choices Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #68

For many, dietary choices are environmental issues and, as an activist for wider access Luminous Animal Dec 2014 #74

"And their meat eating habits are primarily led by propaganda" Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #75

Um no. I am referring to the quantity of meat. It is well out of proportion Luminous Animal Dec 2014 #81

True, it is ok to say anything about the environment, except when what you say ellenrr Dec 2014 #88

We have Black Friday, though nxylas Dec 2014 #106

It's a day to celebrate when Native Americans saved some early settlers from starving. tclambert Dec 2014 #108

I smoked a turkey! progressoid Dec 2014 #3

I tried to smoke a turkey once... titaniumsalute Dec 2014 #5

Funny! Stellar Dec 2014 #17

Here's a smokeable turkey. bearssoapbox Dec 2014 #46

Good one! nt elias49 Dec 2014 #60

+1 Go Vols Dec 2014 #117

It takes a.good sized torch to light it Nac Mac Feegle Dec 2014 #48

And they're really hard to keep lit. Jackpine Radical Dec 2014 #124

well I free based a turkey olddots Dec 2014 #32

Try vaping it next time. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #102

The environmental impact of eating animals is big Beaverhausen Dec 2014 #6

why -some- liberals tend to ignore this. :-) RiverLover Dec 2014 #8

You are right. Some get it. Beaverhausen Dec 2014 #12

Free Range AndyTiedye Dec 2014 #13

But many can't afford that or don't have access Beaverhausen Dec 2014 #14

We hunt or raise all our meat, up side? Steriod free, healthy meat. GGJohn Dec 2014 #51

I get free range eggs. RiverLover Dec 2014 #20

Push for truth-in-labelling laws Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #30

You guys are so far advanced over US in everything. RiverLover Dec 2014 #35

GMOs aren't banned here but they have to be labelled Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #43

Have you visited that "free range" farm? Chances are greater than not that Luminous Animal Dec 2014 #63

Yes I have...more than once titaniumsalute Dec 2014 #98

One day you can raise your own. people don't realize how easy it is. Sunlei Dec 2014 #91

Very are very few truly free range chickens. In near all cases, the Luminous Animal Dec 2014 #42

buy them at the farm and you'll know belcffub Dec 2014 #112

As big as it would take to feed them veggies? Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #11

Read this Beaverhausen Dec 2014 #16

Doesn't answer the question Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #18

You have to feed the cows more grain than the human would eat. mucifer Dec 2014 #28

Thank you, that answer the question Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #36

You Don't Have to Feed Cows GRAIN at All. They Were Meant to Eat GRASS AndyTiedye Dec 2014 #69

There isn't enough grass available for all of the cattle for everyone who wants to eat mucifer Dec 2014 #73

Do you not understand how much land is used to grow grain to feed cattle? CrawlingChaos Dec 2014 #34

Yes, I am Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #39

If you have land that is suitable cropland, Ms. Toad Dec 2014 #111

It's also concentration. You still have to eat a bushel of beans to get the proteins jtuck004 Dec 2014 #113

My point was about your assumption that Ms. Toad Dec 2014 #115

Depends on the animal. Brickbat Dec 2014 #19

Most Americans certainly ought to cut down on their meat consumption. nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #41

Lots of behaviors have large negative impacts Shivering Jemmy Dec 2014 #53

Oh that is a bunch of hooey. truedelphi Dec 2014 #59

So is clearing native grasslands to grow crops. nt geek tragedy Dec 2014 #71

Yeah, Plucketeer Dec 2014 #107

+1 C Moon Dec 2014 #114

Everyone in my house likes ham but I always get a few slices of turkey from the liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #7

Turkey, stuffing and mashed potatoes all smothered in gravy is my ideal Thanksgiving meal. nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #44

oh, absolutely. Butter and garlic whipped potatoes are always right next to my liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #121

Turkey Roasted Over Charcoal AndyTiedye Dec 2014 #9

I prefer a delicious smoked ham, I've never cared for turkey. n/t SylviaD Dec 2014 #10

I actually DID eat an entire turkey leg. n/t cherokeeprogressive Dec 2014 #15

Good man! Me too! elias49 Dec 2014 #62

There is nothing wrong with eating meat jeffrey_pdx Dec 2014 #21

Americans wildly overestimate the amount of protein they need daily Luminous Animal Dec 2014 #52

Fried turkey here - the only way to go if you want a delicious, juicy bird. badtoworse Dec 2014 #22

BBQ works well also. We've done ours that way the last several years. n/t nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #47

I've done that too. A small one (11 - 13 lbs) is great on the spit with smoke. badtoworse Dec 2014 #90

I smoked a turkey and bought a Kentucky smoked ham, to boot... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #24

I'd agree with a factory farming ban Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #29

Thanks for that enlightenment, Prophet... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #33

I'm always surprised about the lack of GMO labelling Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #45

They've tried. RiverLover Dec 2014 #85

thanks for the post oldandhappy Dec 2014 #25

How do you know when someone is a meat eater? They fucking tell you! mucifer Dec 2014 #27

+ infinity CrawlingChaos Dec 2014 #38

+1! But when a vegan or vegetarian tells you that they don't eat meat? Luminous Animal Dec 2014 #57

No many are not obnoxious titaniumsalute Dec 2014 #99

i don't eat much meat, but i do eat it. sometimes vegetarians DesertFlower Dec 2014 #31

I ate at Olive Garden on Thanksgiving and it was DELICIOUS! edbermac Dec 2014 #37

Tell me it was the one in NYC. That's the best one. LostInAnomie Dec 2014 #80

I was vegetarian, then I married a meat eater. Instead I have alfredo Dec 2014 #40

"I Ate Turkey on Thanksgiving and It Was DELICIOUS!" Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #49

You were berated here many times for eating meat? flvegan Dec 2014 #55

Really? You're saying there are no anti-meat posts on the DU? Nt Logical Dec 2014 #56

Is that what I said? flvegan Dec 2014 #58

Are pro-meat posts berating vegans and vegetarians? Luminous Animal Dec 2014 #65

That is exactly my point with my post titaniumsalute Dec 2014 #86

You were berated "many times" at DU for eating meat?... TeeYiYi Dec 2014 #64

My favorite meat of all time is.... ReRe Dec 2014 #66

Holidays are a great time to pick up a standing rib roast on sale pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #72

Can't have it at home... ReRe Dec 2014 #83

Why would you be dead? tridim Dec 2014 #100

Never understood people putting down vegetarians and bike-riders. ErikJ Dec 2014 #67

Naw, they're just into beer and football. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #70

Kick & recommend. William769 Dec 2014 #76

It must be be so hard to be part of the poor persecuted majority. yewberry Dec 2014 #77

Soak the filthy bird in Jesus Juice then suck it up with a straw. JEB Dec 2014 #78

I eat turkey cause they're funny and make me laugh. Lint Head Dec 2014 #79

I would post a witty insult.... Socal31 Dec 2014 #82

God was clearly a carnivore. pansypoo53219 Dec 2014 #84

Whenever I have started a thread about protecting farm animals, or even MoonRiver Dec 2014 #89

.... handmade34 Dec 2014 #119

handmade34 MoonRiver Dec 2014 #125

I've been a DUer for almost 11 years, and I've NEVER been berated for eating meat. Heidi Dec 2014 #92

I like turkey, but's it's mostly the centerpiece on the table for me TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2014 #93

I had a stake and some roasted potatoes with vinegar el_bryanto Dec 2014 #94

Wood and potatoes? Jeebus, that's a lot of fiber! nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #105

Vampire? HappyMe Dec 2014 #110

I don't think I have been berated here HappyMe Dec 2014 #95

I react the same way when someone points out my excessive and wasteful indulgences. LanternWaste Dec 2014 #96

Berated for eating meat. NuclearDem Dec 2014 #97

But not eating meat cures HIV and diabetes. DesMoinesDem Dec 2014 #101

This vegetarian doesn't care what you eat. upaloopa Dec 2014 #103

I agree with you 100%! titaniumsalute Dec 2014 #128

My turkey was also delish! bigwillq Dec 2014 #104

Meat kills people...no wait that's guns....meat is murder!!! ileus Dec 2014 #109

I say this as a meat-eater Dopers_Greed Dec 2014 #116

I have been handmade34 Dec 2014 #126

If you really want to understand why some suggest you abandon Karmadillo Dec 2014 #118

Hey buddy, deaniac21 Dec 2014 #120

I am going to advocate 2 things about Food & Jesus to you. MarianJack Dec 2014 #122

I also have no problem with Vegetarians and/or Vegans. But this OP wouldn't be complete without..... wandy Dec 2014 #123

My favorite style of music...never heard this titaniumsalute Dec 2014 #127

One of my favorite types of music, at least one I could play.............. wandy Dec 2014 #129