General Discussion

been (and likely was) offered in a rhetorical sense.

Your post advocated violence, as noted probably in a rhetorical sense, against the group of DU posters/people that held a particular viewpoint. I do not recall the specifics and there is no use in searching to find the your deleted posts and my juried post.

I expected my post then of censure to be juried and it was. Then several days later you went back and deleted your post the elicited my strong negative response and your follow up post to my juried post. As a result, DU members could look at my juried post but not see what I had responded to get my reaction nor your response to my post. I have had less than 5 juried / moderated posts in over ten years at DU under this and another screen name. I probably even then would not now have recalled the specific incident save for the fact you went back several days later and deleted your portions of the exchange which suggests at least to me that you had your own 2nd thoughts about your posts.

Rhetoric is the slippery slope to political violence. Calling cretins like Spencer "Nazi" and drawing attention to them and advocating violence towards them is specifically what they want and Spencer may well want political violence too. Spencer's rhetoric is ugly and threatening and I hope at least on this issue we agree.

I had a Jewish maternal grandfather and was once married to a practicing Jewish woman and spent time in the Jewish communities of the SF and Berkeley area in the 1960s and 1970s (most of my intimate friends or relations at the time were active in the Jewish religion or like me who was raised mostly without religion and have never espoused a religion; I attended a boarding school for three years of HS that was about 40% Jewish as well and spent 6 years at Cal and earlier lived with those grandparents for part of grade school and occasionally attended synagogue). These people and times have major influence on my liberal Democratic political views to the present (even though I was born and now live rural).

My Dad was a WWII veteran as well. He volunteered in January 1942 and came home from Europe in 1946. He wanted to fly and had no birth certificate or other proof of age so he was baptized in January 1942 immediately prior joining the Army. He stated his birth date so as to put himself under age 30 so he could go to flight school. However, his highest education was 8th grade and he was an infantryman He had basic training in Cheyenne, WY; spent the day before shipping to England in Manhattan, was stationed prior to D-Day near Salisbury, England; and shipped back to the USA from Le Harve, France. He would never talk about his experiences in the war except up to and including his leave time in England. He had a friend from the war who lived in North Carolina that he corresponded with and had made plans to visit in Summer 1995. Instead he passed away Summer 1995, age 86. After his death I found various ribbons and a purple heart and some other items but never found his correspondence with his friend. I have no idea what the various ribbons meant or why he had a purple heart but I did find out he was last stationed in Nuremberg because he had a card/pass to get access to a closed area of the city. He never offered to anyone that he was a veteran but was very displeased with me in that I had such strong feelings about Vietnam. Yet he was the one who called me glad that I received a Vietnam draft lottery number over 300. He was a Democrat that loved FDR but also took to Nixon and Reagan and Fox and Limbaugh and did not see the inconsistency unfortunately so we argued. He never spanked or otherwise threatened me with violence and that is how I have lived my life. He was a life long hunter and to his great and enduring disappointment I quit hunting and left behind any interest in guns when I was 16 in 1969.

I don't post nor spend nearly as much time at DU as I did for years. I still remain a member of the Democratic party and tend to remain so in hope of a better future plus I am too old to change. I am very disappointed and fatigued by what has occurred.

Violence is seldom the answer but usually breeds more strife, dehumanization, and violence. You are giving cretins like Spencer (and Trump the victim) the reaction they want and will use to justify their own actions. Spencer obviously deliberately wants to raise the specter of the Nazi. Ugly.

I find your poll advocating violence offensive and non-productive.