Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,827 posts)
116. I never advocated violence against anybody for merely holding a different opinion.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 02:47 PM
Jan 2017

Last edited Wed Jan 25, 2017, 03:19 PM - Edit history (1)

My lens regards DSB is colored by the fact that in the past DSB rhetorically probably recommended violence against a set of DUers of different opinion.



You are assassinating my character because you think I "probably rhetorically " recommended violence against a set of DUERS of different opinion. I I never advocated violence against anybody for merely holding a different opinion. I will take a polygraph test. These attacks on my character are beyond the pale. I have had a broken nose, a broken elbow, a broken arm, and a broken orbital bone. Your hurtful words and brutal assault on my character hurt more, a lot more.






Others in this thread do agree with me and not with DSB

-PuffPuf23


BTW, that is an appeal to popularity which is a logical fallacy.


DSB's post here advocating violence is at best in poor taste and counter productive

in regards to the rhetoric of Spencer and general discourse.

-PuffPuf 23



This is not general discourse:

“Martin Luther King Jr., a fraud and degenerate in his life, has become the symbol and cynosure of White Dispossession and the deconstruction of Occidental civilization. We must overcome!”

– National Policy Institute column, January 2014

“Immigration is a kind a proxy war—and maybe a last stand—for White Americans, who are undergoing a painful recognition that, unless dramatic action is taken, their grandchildren will live in a country that is alien and hostile.”

– National Policy Institute column, February 2014

“Our dream is a new society, an ethno-state that would be a gathering point for all Europeans. It would be a new society based on very different ideals than, say, the Declaration of Independence."

– Quoted by Vice, October 2013

“When we hear any professional ‘Latino’ support this or that social program, we sense in our guts that her policy proscriptions are rationalizations for nationalism. She might say ‘more immigration is good’; she means ‘The Anglos are finished!’”

– Speech at the 2013 American Renaissance conference

“What blocks our progress is the meme that has been carefully implanted in White people’s minds over the course of decades of programming, from Mississippi Burning to Lee Daniel's The Butler—that any kind of positive racial feeling among Whites is inherently evil and stupid and derives solely from bigotry and resentment. And that the political and social advancement of non-Whites is inherently moral and wonderful.”

– National Policy Institute column, September 2013


Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Nazi punching is a great American tradition MrScorpio Jan 2017 #1
Yep workinclasszero Jan 2017 #23
Damn skippy! MrScorpio Jan 2017 #34
Act like a NAZI as a means of protesting what a NAZI is saying? guillaumeb Jan 2017 #2
My old man was ordered to kill NAZIS in WW ll DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #9
Violence will be used by Spencer as a recruiting tool. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #10
My old man was ordered to kill Nazi's too. He was luckier with the shrapenel (hit his shoulder) in rzemanfl Jan 2017 #81
I'm sure that was "accidental".... Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #3
Not accidental. I saw the clip. It was self-defense. NCjack Jan 2017 #17
Guess you missed the intended sarcasm... Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #19
My sarcasm piling on your sarcasm failed. NCjack Jan 2017 #20
You're both wrong Orrex Jan 2017 #30
I did not see that inversion of the event. It is possible, in a Conway NCjack Jan 2017 #37
You're getting bogged down by your "alternative facts" Orrex Jan 2017 #39
In WW2, it was our patriotic duty to kill them. roamer65 Jan 2017 #4
... DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #5
Oh noes! A liberal college professor punching a servicemember for his political views! backscatter712 Jan 2017 #12
They way I saw the video is this Spencer guy is quite clumsy. He tripped and fell right into that TrekLuver Jan 2017 #6
There are no real Nazis.. speaktruthtopower Jan 2017 #7
The quickest way to tell is to punch one. bluedigger Jan 2017 #11
Ok, I LOL'ed. Orrex Jan 2017 #32
I wish shenmue Jan 2017 #53
American tradition forces us to punch nazis bravenak Jan 2017 #8
Yes...nt SidDithers Jan 2017 #13
Nazi Gets Punched In The Face, Internet Celebrates Scurrilous Jan 2017 #14
We can "punch" Nazis in a multitude of ways uponit7771 Jan 2017 #15
Easier to punch them now than workinclasszero Jan 2017 #16
I defer to Captain America and Woody Allen on this temporary311 Jan 2017 #18
OMG! I must've missed that Woody Allen movie! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #22
You missed Manhattan? oberliner Jan 2017 #35
Maybe Annie Hall is more acclaimed? Yes, I never saw Manhattan. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #40
Maybe so oberliner Jan 2017 #43
I just looked at the plot summary and see what you mean. Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #45
This scene from Annie Hall reminds me of my mother... Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #46
Yes, Annie Hall is great oberliner Jan 2017 #47
He won an oscar for Annie Hall (nt) leftynyc Jan 2017 #64
I think Manhattan was his highest grossing movie, though oberliner Jan 2017 #67
Woody! underpants Jan 2017 #26
I liked that! Perfect. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2017 #58
What would John Wayne do?... lame54 Jan 2017 #21
Know your enemy...these punks will put you in your grave if given a chance workinclasszero Jan 2017 #24
Yep. But the consequences are more than A&B. They'll kill you, if possible. NT Eleanors38 Jan 2017 #70
I believe it is my patriotic to use non-violent methods to the fullest extent possible struggle4progress Jan 2017 #25
I agree MountCleaners Jan 2017 #87
I do wonder if I have become a bad person... HopeAgain Jan 2017 #27
Can we punch Communists and Muslims too? NobodyHere Jan 2017 #28
Muslims and Communists equal... Nazis?? Charles Bukowski Jan 2017 #36
Did a poster just compare Muslims to NAZIS?/nt DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #42
Yes. And Communists. emulatorloo Jan 2017 #84
Odd response DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #85
Yeah very odd. He's putting words in your mouth to make you look bad. emulatorloo Jan 2017 #86
Are you suggesting Communists and Muslims are NAZIS? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #41
Are they comparable leftynyc Jan 2017 #65
I think he is trying to ask a good question Yupster Jan 2017 #100
NAZISM is an eliminationist philosophy . Islam isn't. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #118
If it is what Captain America would do, than I am all for it! Rex Jan 2017 #29
It's part of a long tradition Orrex Jan 2017 #31
Aldo Raine would approve! Initech Jan 2017 #33
Waiting until a NAZI sarisataka Jan 2017 #38
People act like the Nazis were born at the Nuremberg rallies Charles Bukowski Jan 2017 #44
This applause of violence is a sad reflection on our era tritsofme Jan 2017 #48
"For us it is conquer or die...Hail Trump..." -Richard Spencer DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #49
Bullshit.. you can't play nice with those evil bastards nini Jan 2017 #69
So at what point is violence justifiable against your political opponents? tritsofme Jan 2017 #88
Are you shitting me? nini Jan 2017 #89
You are no better. tritsofme Jan 2017 #92
You hope I go to jail nini Jan 2017 #93
It's all empty talk anyway melman Jan 2017 #78
I almost punched one with the emphasis on almost DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #122
High school is a different thing melman Jan 2017 #124
That guy hit Spencer and ran away. I have a problem with that. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #127
It truly is... rumdude Jan 2017 #99
it's called preemptive heaven05 Jan 2017 #50
Yes! Whenever, wherever you can. eom BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #51
He deserved to be punched just for being such an insufferable, self absorbed wildeyed Jan 2017 #52
Like Joe Louis punched Germany's Max Schmeling on 6/22/1938... VOX Jan 2017 #54
Richard Spencer got off easy. FuzzyRabbit Jan 2017 #55
Poor guy . . . . . . he could have hurt his hand. Hoyt Jan 2017 #56
There have been some fun treatment of this punch Gothmog Jan 2017 #57
... DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #59
From my twitter feed Gothmog Jan 2017 #60
LOL workinclasszero Jan 2017 #61
It would be my patriotic duty to spill a staining liquid on the front of his pants... cynatnite Jan 2017 #62
Remember when a protestor at a Trump rally was sucker punched? Did you support that? brooklynite Jan 2017 #63
No - he wasn't a nazi leftynyc Jan 2017 #66
Yes it does... brooklynite Jan 2017 #68
I remember the movie "Holocaust" from when I was a kid DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #75
...and when we live in a fascist dictatorship, you can apply different principles... brooklynite Jan 2017 #77
Nope - I don't accept that leftynyc Jan 2017 #83
The OP poster suggested violence against other DUers that did not PufPuf23 Jan 2017 #91
That is libel DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #94
What is true is not libel. Note that I said your cited post advocating violence may have PufPuf23 Jan 2017 #95
I would never advocate violence against someone for merely holding a different opinion. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #96
You're blowing DSB's post WAY out of proportion, and you know it. BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #97
DSB's post here advocating violence is at best in poor taste and counter productive PufPuf23 Jan 2017 #101
Punching Nazis is hilarious "period" JHan Jan 2017 #109
Everything is context. I use to really like Hogan's Heros when young. PufPuf23 Jan 2017 #112
Your analysis is deeply flawed and sad Gothmog Jan 2017 #110
I really don't think so. PufPuf23 Jan 2017 #113
I have a sense of humor. Gothmog Jan 2017 #114
I whole heartily agree with you. PufPuf23 Jan 2017 #115
From the Daily Kos Gothmog Jan 2017 #126
Again. You've blown the OP out of proportion and making it into something it isn't. BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #111
It was way more than that. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #119
Fact: Last year DSB made a post suggesting violence against DUers that held an opinion PufPuf23 Jan 2017 #128
So you refuse to apologize for dredging up old grudges? Okay. I guess I know where you're BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #130
I don't get the reasoning why I owe DSB an apology. PufPuf23 Jan 2017 #131
Fact: "history of violence" you're putting words in DSB's mouth, and making up shit. emulatorloo Jan 2017 #133
I never advocated violence against anybody for merely holding a different opinion. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #116
Being a Nazi makes a difference. It does. NT Adrahil Jan 2017 #73
It's a patriotic duty to STOP a Nazi MurrayDelph Jan 2017 #71
I'm certainly not going to cry over it. But, generally, a Nazi's words should be met prayin4rain Jan 2017 #72
What does it accomplish meadowlander Jan 2017 #74
Shunning, punching, yelling...whatever it takes to drive them back into the dark hole manicraven Jan 2017 #82
It's funny as fk ..lol JHan Jan 2017 #76
I think of it more in terms of... Turbineguy Jan 2017 #79
I am more into cursing get the red out Jan 2017 #80
My WWII Army dad is spinning in his grave nini Jan 2017 #90
I find something vaguely Nazi-like in the phrase "patriotic duty" Spider Jerusalem Jan 2017 #98
There are always going to be Nazis MountCleaners Jan 2017 #102
There are still a few WW11 vets left randr Jan 2017 #103
They were brainwashed by hate radio workinclasszero Jan 2017 #104
So true randr Jan 2017 #105
And people wonder zipplewrath Jan 2017 #106
I wonder how many people here MountCleaners Jan 2017 #107
Does it take violence? zipplewrath Jan 2017 #108
Primary? No. Adrahil Jan 2017 #120
No one zipplewrath Jan 2017 #121
Exactly MountCleaners Jan 2017 #123
Many of our problems won't end until we get to this zipplewrath Jan 2017 #129
i am vice chair of the local dem party in a very very red area dembotoz Jan 2017 #117
No Madam Mossfern Jan 2017 #125
"Patriotism is the last refuge for a scoundrel" sl8 Jan 2017 #132
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Do you agree with me that...»Reply #116