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pennylane100

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16. Why have the democrats had such a run of terrible luck lately,

Reply to trueblue2007 (Reply #6)

Mon Apr 17, 2017, 02:48 PM

Apr 2017

They have lost control of the white house, both houses of congress and will be on the wrong side of most supreme court decisions because they could not get even get their nominee a hearing.

I supported Bernie in the primary but as soon as Hillary won, I did not even hesitate for one second before supporting her. I have always considered myself a socialist, although I have always voted democrat. I find that taking the attitude of "my way or the highway" over party labels is a recipe for failure. As long as my candidate supports a progressive agenda, he or she can can call themselves whatever suits them.

Bernie answers to the people of Vermont and they have continued to support him regardless of what label he wears. To put the label he wears over his agenda has not served us well and as the saying goes, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

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Democrats welcome Bernie takeover [View all] workinclasszero Apr 2017 OP

Fake news. N/T Chevy Apr 2017 #1

Click bait FakeNoose Apr 2017 #33

Agreed, this op Chevy Apr 2017 #52

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #39

Something wrong with this. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #2

I doubt the premise of this report Gothmog Apr 2017 #3

Agree ATL Ebony Apr 2017 #17

It seems the author is basing this on a dozen Democrats WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #23

Agreed-The party has not agreed to be remade into Sanders image Gothmog Apr 2017 #60

And she has a book to sell that depends on a certain narrative. stevenleser Apr 2017 #74

nnoooo uponit7771 Apr 2017 #4

"Takeover" if you don't see how deliberately divisive this crap is, I can't help you. Unrec. bettyellen Apr 2017 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author trueblue2007 Apr 2017 #7

Why are you going after Bernie here? StubbornThings Apr 2017 #12

It's not Bernie, it's the OP. Falling for this divisive shit again. bettyellen Apr 2017 #15

You said, "Get it Bernie?" StubbornThings Apr 2017 #21

I didn't- and this misquoting thing has gotten out of hand. bettyellen Apr 2017 #29

Well, maybe you shouldn't have answered a question that wasn't directed at you. StubbornThings Apr 2017 #38

I was trying to explain that some people are stoking the flames.... bettyellen Apr 2017 #48

+1000 ATL Ebony Apr 2017 #18

Yes. LakeArenal Apr 2017 #66

not me. The Phrase "TAKE OVER" is not appropriate. My vote will go to a Democrat, not Independent trueblue2007 Apr 2017 #6

Why have the democrats had such a run of terrible luck lately, pennylane100 Apr 2017 #16

Isn't he the one "putting a label" over his agenda? Demit Apr 2017 #82

You are missing my point. pennylane100 Apr 2017 #86

Now I really am confused. Demit Apr 2017 #87

I cannot help you with your state of confusion. pennylane100 Apr 2017 #88

Of course. You have enough to deal with, with your own. Demit Apr 2017 #92

with maybe a dabb of incompetence, at least at the National level. I'm not saying that Comey wasn't Alice11111 Apr 2017 #95

My party right or wrong.. exactly like republicants. LakeArenal Apr 2017 #67

Some "takeover". Given a position where he will refrain from badmouthing us. randome Apr 2017 #8

It is obvious the knee-jerkers didn't read the article. demmiblue Apr 2017 #9

He is a resource and it appears we are going to use him wisely. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #10

I feel like him turning over the email list would only hurt retrowire Apr 2017 #22

It would tremendously help. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #26

Ok retrowire Apr 2017 #32

Along with the email list she turned over her analytics and voter modeling tools. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #34

Ah ok retrowire Apr 2017 #36

Always is.... NCTraveler Apr 2017 #41

The full story is much more nuanced Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #11

The animosity toward Bernie on display here is disconcerting. Voltaire2 Apr 2017 #13

Of course. Tom Rinaldo Apr 2017 #14

A nice effort would be for Bernie Sanders to turn over his email list. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #25

It's a way to rehash the primaries w/o getting a hide. QC Apr 2017 #28

Yeah, that seems QUITE popular. Not clever or subtle at all. synergie Apr 2017 #107

One would think.I wasn't a Berniecrat,but I'm sick of this self righteous, narrow minded,punitive BS Alice11111 Apr 2017 #96

"I wasn't a Berniecrat, but" R B Garr Apr 2017 #103

I actually wasn't either, but give the guy a break Alice11111 Apr 2017 #110

!!! Alice11111 Apr 2017 #112

Good! Alice11111 Apr 2017 #113

What the fuck ever happened to partnerships and working together? Blue_Tires Apr 2017 #19

Yes- "these tactics" are exactly the same as the Russian propaganda- bummed to see people still bettyellen Apr 2017 #30

Why would I believe leftynyc Apr 2017 #20

Oh, That's Not True, Lefty ProfessorGAC Apr 2017 #24

LOL - but that would mean leftynyc Apr 2017 #42

Yeah, You're Right! ProfessorGAC Apr 2017 #46

. Barack_America Apr 2017 #27

Let me know when Sen Sanders musette_sf Apr 2017 #31

Is Sanders supporting a pro-life candidate somewhere? Not that I'm aware of. He is supporting JCanete Apr 2017 #37

Sen Sanders told Joe Scarborough in March of 2017 musette_sf Apr 2017 #43

You can speak for yourself, but not for "Democratic women" LakeArenal Apr 2017 #44

The Dem party does not consider reproductive rights as "negotiable" and that's part of why I support bettyellen Apr 2017 #49

I DO speak for Democratic women. Suggest you read the Democratic party platform. musette_sf Apr 2017 #62

No different than Hillary Clinton saying she'd compromise on abortion rights, IMO NickB79 Apr 2017 #77

Sec'y Clinton NEVER said "I would compromise" etc. musette_sf Apr 2017 #91

That is a bit different... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #102

He just stated that we should not be "rigid" about supporting women's basic synergie Apr 2017 #50

what he said is being well overstated. His own record on this issue is solid. The Democratic party JCanete Apr 2017 #71

"His own record on this" shows that time and time again, musette_sf Apr 2017 #75

Planned Parenthood has made inroads with the Establishment of the Democratic party. They JCanete Apr 2017 #81

You might (or might not) be interested to know musette_sf Apr 2017 #90

more than a dozen democrats interviewed...were they Senators or something? JCanete Apr 2017 #35

Another over-the-top headline writer. Do they do this purposely to stoke division? LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #40

The divisiveness chervilant Apr 2017 #45

I really wish the admins would do something about it, like post that quote or something LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #55

Thank you for this response. chervilant Apr 2017 #57

Have a great day chervilant! LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #68

LiberalLovinLug, I agree that headline is terrible. It immediately turned me off... Hekate Apr 2017 #97

thanks Hekate! LiberalLovinLug Apr 2017 #100

People seem to forget that Bernie's constituants voted him in as an Independent. LakeArenal Apr 2017 #47

People seem to forget that he told them, and several million others that synergie Apr 2017 #56

I am talking about his current status as an independent.. LakeArenal Apr 2017 #64

People also seem to forget that... SaschaHM Apr 2017 #63

Any democrat is free to run against him if they want. LakeArenal Apr 2017 #65

They should. SaschaHM Apr 2017 #69

If that is what Vermont wants then that's what should happen. LakeArenal Apr 2017 #70

I agree. Mr. Sanders shouldn't abuse the rules to deprive VT of the choice between D,I, or R. SaschaHM Apr 2017 #72

Wow. I didn't know THAT. Demit Apr 2017 #83

I didn't know that, either. How devious. R B Garr Apr 2017 #105

we do???? samnsara Apr 2017 #51

Now maybe he'll turn over his email list WhiteTara Apr 2017 #53

I don't blame Sanders, but I do blame those of his supporters who refused to vote for Hillary in the still_one Apr 2017 #54

He's energized and won the hearts of many people, myself included. PatsFan87 Apr 2017 #58

I am with you PatsFan. LakeArenal Apr 2017 #61

Yes but even before that the electorate was so fickle... LakeArenal Apr 2017 #59

Author has a book to sell that depends on a certain narrative. nt stevenleser Apr 2017 #73

Title does not really match the content of the article oberliner Apr 2017 #76

bullshit Skittles Apr 2017 #78

Bernie supporters who voted for Clinton against Trump, I'm okay with that. hunter Apr 2017 #79

sorry... chillfactor Apr 2017 #80

Well there is this FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #84

Come on. We have a lot of seniors on DU. Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #85

Is this a joke? And incidentally, Bernie has NOT "taken over" the Democratic Party Lil Missy Apr 2017 #89

FFS.. Bull.. BS is not taking over the Dem Party. Cha Apr 2017 #93

I do, and I was never a Berniecrat. The grassroots are motivating the party, in a big and wonderful Alice11111 Apr 2017 #94

Bernie Rocks colsohlibgal Apr 2017 #98

The past two weeks have convinced me the primaries are still be fought LanternWaste Apr 2017 #99

The members of the party seek a leader. Only Bernie has angled to fill that vacuum. LonePirate Apr 2017 #101

Bernie Sanders Progressive Revolution is already resonating. NJProgressive Apr 2017 #104

How can Bernie Sanders lead the Democratic party? Expecting Rain Apr 2017 #106

Hell to the No. tallahasseedem Apr 2017 #108

An unfortunate headline. Better to said - Democrats Warming to Bernie aikoaiko Apr 2017 #109

"More than a dozen Democrats". William769 Apr 2017 #111