General Discussion

Does that fact that I'm not "pro-Bernie" make me "anti-Bernie"? If someone criticizes something he says or does, does that make them "anti-Bernie"? (How much leeway are you willing to allow? What's fair?)

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// We need support wherever we can get it.
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Well, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you, but your idea of "support" and my idea of "support" are two entirely different things. I'm not convinced that attacking and denigrating the Democratic party is what I'd call "support". Does the fact that I disapprove of the things he says make me "anti-Bernie"?

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// Why stay with what we know can never work?
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LOL! Why make statements that are merely opinions and treat them as fact?

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// Of course not. We know better than that.
// So why even chance it?
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That's sounds like what fundamentalist Christians say to me when they find out I'm not a believer. They'll try to convince me with similar (but unconvincing) "why take a chance" arguments. (I reject your "facts" until they've been proven.)

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// Do we WANT to be stuck in November, 2016, for the rest of eternity?
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The only people who appear to want to be "stuck in November" are the ones who keep trotting out old arguments and attacks and smears and insults of Democrats and the Democratic Party every six weeks... those are the only people who fit in that category. Why don't you ask THEM instead? The answer might amaze you.

Their tactics don't seem to be working. In fact, it seems to continue to cause division, which weakens the party. People who do such things "SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN THAT" (as you say) and it makes ME wonder what they hope to gain, or "WHY EVEN CHANCE IT" (as you say) when the division and weakness are readily apparent each and every time.

There's no mystery about it... there's definitely a cause-and-effect. People may flatter themselves by thinking they're "helping" but they're really not.

It's not realistic to think that anyone appreciates (or welcomes) a house guest who crashes on their couch, eats their food for free... then gets all up in their face telling them how AWFUL their decorations are and how they need to redecorate the entire house.

That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.