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thesquanderer

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6. Not necessarily unworkable... compliance on paying tax on (cash) tips is already low.
Tue Jun 11, 2024, 07:21 AM
Jun 2024

The current issue is that so many people already do not pay tax on some or all of their tips. So the idea of making that no longer criminal (tax evasion) is not inherently insane or unworkable.

from https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2023/03/05/americans-are-tipping-more-and-more-often-the-irs-wants-its-cut/

Tips are subject to income and payroll (Social Security and Medicare) taxes. Employees are supposed to report all their tips to their employer, who can then withhold the proper tax and pay the employer’s share of payroll taxes. But compliance has always been low, particularly since so many tips have traditionally been paid in cash. In its Tax Gap studies, the IRS estimates that it gets 99% of what its due on regular wages, where taxes are withheld and reported to both the IRS and the taxpayer on a W-2, but just 55% of what it’s owed on tips (the same percentage it figures it collects from self-employed sole proprietors).
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Over the last three decades, the IRS has launched a series of programs that encourage employers to voluntarily calculate, report and collect taxes on a certain level of tips in exchange for protection from tip audits for themselves and their tipped employees. Except that’s not working great either. A 2018 study by the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration estimated that 30% of employers with tip agreements in place were underreporting.


The recent move toward customers more often paying tips electronically (through an on-screen tap) should improve compliance, as it makes tips easily trackable. But it would be easy enough for the IRS to say that that income is not taxable.

I don't think this is inherently a bad idea. Rich people get all kinds of tax breaks. People who rely largely on tips don't, and they need it more.

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Worthy of note: trump never tipped ANYBODY in his life. mpcamb Jun 2024 #1
I like this idea of not taxing tips. jimfields33 Jun 2024 #12
Insane and unworkable bucolic_frolic Jun 2024 #2
Not necessarily unworkable... compliance on paying tax on (cash) tips is already low. thesquanderer Jun 2024 #6
Why not just increase the minimum income at which workers will be taxed? SunSeeker Jun 2024 #7
I'm not saying it's the only (or best) way to help lower income workers... thesquanderer Jun 2024 #9
I see new compensation packages for CEOs EYESORE 9001 Jun 2024 #3
"No tax on tips" is his new "Build the Wall" promise to the rubes. SunSeeker Jun 2024 #4
Most countries don't 'do' tipping. Aussie105 Jun 2024 #5
We're getting better. jimfields33 Jun 2024 #14
Here's a tip Donald; fuck off. twodogsbarking Jun 2024 #8
He's totally lying and there's a major tell. lark Jun 2024 #10
Taxing Tips Was Enacted by...... Mr. Mustard 2023 Jun 2024 #11
* Unless you are a Supreme Court Justice. twodogsbarking Jun 2024 #20
Instead, watch him put a HIGHER tax on tips sakabatou Jun 2024 #13
Tax breaks belong to the rich, not us little people. KS Toronado Jun 2024 #15
This makes national news, but Biden's proposal for eliminating medical debt from credit reports doesn't. sinkingfeeling Jun 2024 #16
Right, because taxes are the problem. Not wages or benefits IronLionZion Jun 2024 #17
Just like his health care plan this will never happen ! kimbutgar Jun 2024 #18
Will he claim his income are all tips? LiberalFighter Jun 2024 #19
Most tipped workers do not report their cash tips anyway TexasBushwhacker Jun 2024 #21
Sounds like vote buying...nt Mark.b2 Jun 2024 #22
Call it the No Taxes On Tips Bribe Act. The Grand Illuminist Jul 2024 #23
Tips were tax free till 82' tinymontgomery Jul 2024 #24
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