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BumRushDaShow

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Wed Oct 2, 2024, 03:03 PM Oct 2024

Prosecutors lay out new evidence in Trump election case, accuse him of having 'resorted to crimes' [View all]

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Source: AP

Updated 6:38 PM EDT, October 2, 2024


WASHINGTON (AP) — Donald Trump laid the groundwork to try to overturn the 2020 election even before he lost, knowingly pushed false claims of voter fraud and “resorted to crimes” in his failed bid to cling to power, according to a newly unsealed court filing from prosecutors that offers new evidence from the landmark criminal case against the former president.

The filing from special counsel Jack Smith’s team offers the most comprehensive view to date of what prosecutors intend to prove if the case charging Trump with conspiring to overturn the election reaches trial. Though a months-long congressional investigation and the indictment itself have chronicled in stark detail Trump’s efforts to undo the election, the filing cites previously unknown accounts offered by Trump’s closest aides to paint a portrait of an “increasingly desperate” president who while losing his grip on the White House “used deceit to target every stage of the electoral process.”

“So what?” the filing quotes Trump as telling an aide after being advised that his vice president, Mike Pence, had been rushed to a secure location after a crowd of violent Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021 to try to prevent the counting of electoral votes.

“The details don’t matter,” Trump said, when told by an adviser that a lawyer who was mounting his legal challenges wouldn’t be able to prove the false allegations in court, the filing states. The brief was made public over the Trump legal team’s objections in the final month of a closely contested presidential race in which Democrats have sought to make Trump’s refusal to accept the election results four years ago central to their claims that he is unfit for office.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/trump-jack-smith-election-supreme-court-0b9969b480036bb1f7c61a73980d406c



Short article at post time.

Link to 165-PAGE FILING (PDF) - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.252.0.pdf


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Updated 5:08 PM EDT, October 2, 2024


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Donald Trump laid the groundwork to try to overturn the 2020 election even before he lost, knowingly pushed false claims of voter fraud and "resorted to crimes" in his failed bid to cling to power, according to a newly unsealed court filing from prosecutors that lays out fresh details from the landmark criminal case against the former president.

The filing from special counsel Jack Smith's team offers the most comprehensive view to date of what prosecutors intend to prove if the case charging Trump with conspiring to overturn the election reaches trial. Though a months-long congressional investigation and the indictment itself have chronicled in stark detail Trump's efforts to undo the election, the new filing cites previously unknown accounts offered by Trump's closest aides to paint a portrait of an "increasingly desperate" president who while losing his grip on the White House "used deceit to target every stage of the electoral process."

"So what?" the filing quotes Trump as telling an aide after being alerted that his vice president, Mike Pence, was in potential danger after a crowd of violent supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. "The details don't matter," Trump said, when told by an adviser that a lawyer who was mounting his legal challenges wouldn't be able to prove the false allegations in court, the filing states.

The filing was submitted, initially under seal, following a Supreme Court opinion that conferred broad immunity on former presidents for official acts they take in office, narrowing the scope of the prosecution charging Trump with conspiring to overturn the results of the election he lost to Democrat Joe Biden.



Prosecutors: Trump 'resorted to crimes' after losing 2020 election in failed bid to cling to power

Updated 4:22 PM EDT, October 2, 2024


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Donald Trump "resorted to crimes" after losing the 2020 election, federal prosecutors said in a court filing unsealed Wednesday that argues that the former president disregarded the advice of his vice president and other aides and is not entitled to immunity from prosecution over his failed bid to remain in power.

The filing was submitted by special counsel Jack Smith's team following a Supreme Court opinion that conferred broad immunity on former presidents for official acts they take in office, narrowing the scope of the prosecution charging Trump with conspiring to overturn the results of the election he lost to Democrat Joe Biden.

The purpose of the brief is to convince U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan that the offenses charged in the indictment are private, rather than official, acts and can therefore remain part of the indictment as the case moves forward.

"Although the defendant was the incumbent President during the charged conspiracies, his scheme was fundamentally a private one," Smith's team said, adding, "When the defendant lost the 2020 presidential election, he resorted to crimes to try to stay in office."


Updated 4:07 PM EDT, October 2, 2024


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Donald Trump "resorted to crimes" after losing the 2020 election, federal prosecutors said in a court filing unsealed Wednesday that argues that the former president is not entitled to immunity from prosecution over his failed bid to remain in power.

The filing was submitted by special counsel Jack Smith's team following a Supreme Court opinion that conferred broad immunity on former presidents for official acts they take in office, narrowing the scope of the prosecution charging Trump with conspiring to overturn the results of the election he lost to Democrat Joe Biden.

The purpose of the brief is to convince U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan that the offenses charged in the indictment are private, rather than official, acts and can therefore remain part of the indictment as the case moves forward.

Those include efforts to persuade former Vice President Mike Pence to refuse to certify the counting of the electoral votes on the afternoon of Jan. 6, 2021.



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Updated 3:53 PM EDT, October 2, 2024


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Donald Trump "resorted to crimes" in a failed bid to cling to power after losing the 2020 election, federal prosecutors said in a newly unsealed court filing that argues that the former president is not entitled to immunity from prosecution.

The filing was unsealed Wednesday. It was submitted by special counsel Jack Smith's team following a Supreme Court opinion that conferred broad immunity on former presidents and narrowed the scope of the prosecution.
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I can't wait until mercuryblues Oct 2024 #1
The file that was released is in the OP comments - it's 165 pages BumRushDaShow Oct 2024 #4
That's what I get for speed reading mercuryblues Oct 2024 #8
If there are court filings or press releases, etc BumRushDaShow Oct 2024 #9
That filtering rather implies that crimes are not official acts bucolic_frolic Oct 2024 #2
Lock him up, Jack. republianmushroom Oct 2024 #3
Here is a link to the released filing LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2024 #5
I had already put it in the comments BumRushDaShow Oct 2024 #7
How much "convincing" does Judge Chutkan really need? FakeNoose Oct 2024 #6
Well she has to use what they submit BumRushDaShow Oct 2024 #10
Exactly. ShazzieB Oct 2024 #11
+infinity BumRushDaShow Oct 2024 #12
Thanks! Can't wait to see how MSNBC's Special "All In" Edition digs into the filing at 8 pm. ancianita Oct 2024 #14
I was hoping Ari would but right now BumRushDaShow Oct 2024 #16
I have to think Ari's not helping the case for Trump's criminality -- it's a damn bothsider show, imo. ancianita Oct 2024 #18
Seems just like Faux will put on people like Pete Buttigieg BumRushDaShow Oct 2024 #19
Plausible. ancianita Oct 2024 #21
He can be frustrating BumRushDaShow Oct 2024 #22
I hear you. I can deal with ancianita Oct 2024 #23
"I know. I can sleep when I'm dead." BumRushDaShow Oct 2024 #26
One of the best old timey maxims. ancianita Oct 2024 #27
I chuckled when I heard Walz say it too BumRushDaShow Oct 2024 #28
Hey, SCOTUS when Trump is breaking the law he is acting not as president but as a criminal. StClone Oct 2024 #13
If Biden had lost in 2020 and attempted the same actions as Trump LiberalFighter Oct 2024 #15
He failed the first time but he will likely try again. So what. twodogsbarking Oct 2024 #17
abc: Bombshell immunity filing details Trump's alleged 'increasingly desperate' bid to overturn 2020 election riversedge Oct 2024 #20
Here is a potential list of the witnesses mentioned in the Jack Smith filing LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2024 #24
Why isn't Mike Pence on this list? 😒 FakeNoose Oct 2024 #34
Pence is named in the brief LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2024 #35
Lock him up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2024 #25
Long but very readable, and important dalton99a Oct 2024 #29
So almost five years later we're just now getting to this? Im gonna assume there's a good reason Kashkakat v.2.0 Oct 2024 #30
Creating an airtight case of this magnitude with the high stakes involved takes time and precision. I know some ADD Martin68 Oct 2024 #32
"Im gonna assume there's a good reason" BumRushDaShow Oct 2024 #33
Bring it on! Martin68 Oct 2024 #31
Here's the updated list of alleged conspirators from the redacted immunity filing by Jack Smith LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2024 #36
Hey #MAGA folks---#Trump will NOT be good to your family. NOPE! riversedge Oct 2024 #37
Judge Chutkan - The claims of TFG's attorneys are "unbefitting of experienced defense counsel" LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2024 #38
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