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The_REAL_Ecumenist

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31. NO THEY DIDN'T!! The Selzer Poll that has been VERY accurate, considered the gold standard by even Nate Silver...
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:20 AM
Nov 7

From FORBES Magazine :
https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2024/11/03/why-outlier-poll-showing-harris-winning-iowa-could-spell-trouble-for-trump/

& The Iowa Poll of 808 likely voters conducted Oct. 28-31 and released late Saturday (margin of error 3.4 points) shows Harris ahead 47%-44% in the state, after Trump led by four points in Iowa in Selzer’s September poll for the paper and by 18 points in June against President Joe Biden.

The poll found politically independent voters, women and older voters are the driving force behind Harris’ rise in the state, which could be a bellwether for the rest of the country.

Harris has overtaken Trump’s support among independents as a whole in Iowa, and now leads 46%-39%, and she leads by 28 points among independent women, a sharp swing since September’s five-point lead, though independent men still favor Trump by a much smaller 47%-37% margin.

Harris leads women over the age of 65, 63%-28%, and men in that age bracket 47%-45%, the poll found.

Selzer, revered among politicos, got her start in polling as a staffer at the Des Moines Register, and has overseen its Iowa poll since 1987, branching off to found her own firm, Selzer & Co., in the 1990s.

Statistician Nate Silver ranks Selzer among the top two highest rated pollsters in the U.S., second only to the New York Times/Siena, according to his grading scale, which factors in historical accuracy and transparency/disclosure standards, along with the pollster’s statistical bias toward Democratic or Republican candidates.

Selzer’s best-known poll is perhaps her 2008 poll that accurately predicted an influx of first-time caucusgoers would deliver former President Barack Obama a victory.
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SUDDENLY, TRUMP won there DESPITE the OVERWHELMING support for Kamala? This makes NO sense!

I hope some serious investigation is being undertaken between now and then. pat_k Nov 6 #1
What is to investigate Miguelito Loveless Nov 6 #7
Getting numbers of rejected mail ins and why, pat_k Nov 6 #9
I suppose it's the right thing to do, but I still think turnabout would be fair play. generalbetrayus Nov 6 #2
She should NOT concede! Carolina_Blue79 Nov 6 #3
So well said!!! hamsterjill Nov 6 #6
Bravo BunkieBandit Nov 6 #24
I suspect much of the MSM is going to lose a lot of their readers and viewers as a result of this election, because of JohnSJ Nov 6 #4
Well bdamomma Nov 6 #16
She lost pretty convincingly...why wouldn't she concede? Prairie Gates Nov 6 #5
I wish she would wait Marthe48 Nov 6 #8
You are proposing an overthrow of the government SCantiGOP Nov 6 #26
No Marthe48 Nov 6 #28
The real reasons she lost FakeNoose Nov 6 #10
Dems who didn't get their ponies. we can do it Nov 6 #14
Is there a site where we can BEG her NOT to concede. It's what they want. THEY KNOW THEY DIDN'T WIN.... The_REAL_Ecumenist Nov 6 #11
They won we can do it Nov 6 #15
Of course they won SCantiGOP Nov 6 #27
CLEARLY, you have NOT been watching MSNBC with your own eyes nor listening with your own ears.... The_REAL_Ecumenist Nov 7 #32
NO THEY DIDN'T!! The Selzer Poll that has been VERY accurate, considered the gold standard by even Nate Silver... The_REAL_Ecumenist Nov 7 #31
By now it's too late but in the morning I... electric_blue68 Nov 6 #19
Not even a little bit of a fight. :-( Please don't ask me to reach out and unite with them. Hotler Nov 6 #12
not playing nice bdamomma Nov 6 #17
People voting against their self-interest bmichaelh Nov 6 #13
I'm increasingly thinking that the majority of voting American people have simply become too ignorant generalbetrayus Nov 6 #18
WTH? I thought her speech was at 6P, but you tube shows it as Already Given. electric_blue68 Nov 6 #20
Yes it was originally that because some other sources claimed it BumRushDaShow Nov 6 #21
Got it. Just finished watching it. electric_blue68 Nov 6 #22
I have a feeling too that because we are back on EST, it is now dark at 6 pm BumRushDaShow Nov 6 #23
You make absolutely perfect sense. And I was thinking of it inside*... electric_blue68 Nov 6 #29
The "inside" venue would have had all the celebratory stuff BumRushDaShow Nov 7 #33
Vice President Kamala Harris delivers concession speech after loss to Donald Trump but says, 'I do not concede the fight Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 6 #25
I have never felt so shell shocked by a political event in my life. Passages Nov 6 #30
Same tRump4prison Nov 7 #34
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