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moniss

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14. For anybody worried about the Orange Ruski giving Ghooliani
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 01:45 AM
Nov 8

a pardon in this case, I did some research about criminal matters versus civil and here is what I found from the Brookings website: "Settled law: The scope of the presidential pardon

With President Trump’s history of controversial pardon decisions and with expectations that numbers of additional pardons will issue before his term ends, the presidential power to pardon is attracting unprecedented attention. The exact dimensions of this power are for the Supreme Court to determine, and Court majorities have in recent years often been unshackled by precedent in resolving politically fraught issues. However, certain aspects of the presidential pardoning power are so well-established that it is unlikely that any Court, conservative or liberal, will revisit them. For starters the power is extremely broad; it is vested by the Constitution in the president, and there is little that Congress can do to
Settled law: Limitations of the presidential pardon

Although the president’s power is broad, it is not without accepted limitations. Perhaps the most important is that the president can only pardon federal offenses; he cannot interfere with state prosecutions. Also, the pardoning power only extends to criminal offenses; it does not preclude civil actions. Thus, in one case, despite a strong separation of powers argument to the contrary, the Supreme Court held that the president could pardon a person jailed for criminal contempt of court. It noted, however, that had the charges been for civil contempt, an appeal to the president’s pardoning power would have been unavailing."

So it looks like they might try and then drag it into the appeals process but eventually the matter seems clear. Unless Cash and Carry Clarence feels otherwise.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/presidential-pardons-settled-law-unsettled-issues-and-a-downside-for-trump/#:~:text=Perhaps%20the%20most%20important%20is%20that%20the%20president,criminal%20offenses%3B%20it%20does%20not%20preclude%20civil%20actions.

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OOOOHHHHH!!!! A SCOLDING!!!! SoCalDavidS Nov 7 #1
Yeah... the poor, old bastard. 3Hotdogs Nov 7 #8
Oh no! A scolding! n/t kirby Nov 7 #2
The judge should order federal marshals to accompany Rudy to wherever he's got his stuff hidden Vinca Nov 7 #3
Judges are usually nice to white rich males. Irish_Dem Nov 7 #11
If this is the kind of enforcement of a judgement he's going to get LiberalLovinLug Nov 7 #4
This appears to be the plan. Irish_Dem Nov 7 #12
Judge Liman- You are weak, timid and not doing your job. Rudy is laughing in your face. Resign already. Evolve Dammit Nov 7 #5
Hey judge, jail him for contempt until you are satisfied with his compliance, or RockRaven Nov 7 #6
Bailiff, whack his pee-pee! JoseBalow Nov 7 #7
Scolding are such cruel and unusual punishments. Autumn Nov 7 #9
He's such a... 2naSalit Nov 7 #10
So the judge gave him another deadline moniss Nov 8 #13
For anybody worried about the Orange Ruski giving Ghooliani moniss Nov 8 #14
Well the SCOTUS pretty much declared BumRushDaShow Nov 8 #15
The full Brookings article moniss Nov 8 #17
Oh I know what they are asserting BumRushDaShow Nov 8 #19
That's why I included the mention of Cash and Carry Clarence. nt moniss Nov 8 #20
Scolded? Old Crank Nov 8 #16
The judge will have the choice of criminal contempt moniss Nov 8 #18
Well, tow it away! What is the problem here? travelingthrulife Nov 8 #21
"scolds", how about jail time for non-compliance ? republianmushroom Nov 8 #22
Hey, According to SCOTUS, tonekat Nov 9 #23
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