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81. Colleges should be obligated to guarantee graduates jobs

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Mon Dec 9, 2024, 06:46 PM

Dec 9

Like many trade schools. What use is their degree without follow on employment?

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College enrollment is falling at a 'concerning' rate, new data reveals [View all] BumRushDaShow Dec 8 OP

They did it to themselves Wicked Blue Dec 8 #1

free in California Evolve Dammit Dec 8 #16

And Ronald Reagan eliminated that when he was governor Wicked Blue Dec 8 #17

Brother got two Masters degrees and avoided the draft. He would not have done well. Evolve Dammit Dec 8 #20

Oh, so that's when that happened! ShazzieB Dec 8 #25

Tuition was free at CA community colleges at least until 1993 as I was a student then. There was a big kelly1mm Dec 8 #30

He wouldn't be popular if he didn't do lots of cruel shit. GOP loves to fuck people. Evolve Dammit Dec 9 #72

Yes! UC colleges were free in the 1960s. Now they're $21k per year, just for tuition. SunSeeker Dec 8 #26

My brother was very smart to move to CA and go to USC and UCLA obtaining two Masters degrees and avoiding Nam. Evolve Dammit Dec 9 #71

Yes, I went to a 2 yr. community college after graduating from high school in 1964. patphil Dec 8 #27

$200 in 2024 dollars is $1773 Renew Deal Dec 8 #29

I recently came across my budget for expenses. I paid $170 for tuition, books, and fees for one semester at a public rainin Dec 8 #43

Well now. róisín_dubh Dec 9 #59

COVID was not kind of Higher Ed either. SomewhereInTheMiddle Dec 9 #61

And also, businesses hiring off the streets (directed at college grads) weren't finding the quality and / or quantity of SWBTATTReg Dec 9 #78

Part of that increase is because the federal and states used to give more money to the colleges. raccoon Dec 9 #64

"They" didn't do it. State governments did. Iris Dec 9 #76

High costs with questionable returns IronLionZion Dec 8 #2

The lifetime earnings of someone with a college degree is over a million dollars more than one without on average. Shermann Dec 8 #4

Anyone who can afford to invest $200k all at once at age 18 doesn't need to go to college Fiendish Thingy Dec 8 #9

Actually, the student who simply pays the $200K out of pocket makes out better than most. Shermann Dec 8 #18

Apples to oranges Fiendish Thingy Dec 8 #23

Why college instead of trade school exboyfil Dec 8 #33

Nothing wrong with trade school Fiendish Thingy Dec 8 #53

I already qualified my observation by stating that higher education can be more than just a rate of return Shermann Dec 9 #75

There is a formula in consumer finance education... JT45242 Dec 9 #57

I concur 100% MichMan Dec 9 #60

Overall, that is right on the mark Fiendish Thingy Dec 9 #70

Is the quality of life significantly better? Renew Deal Dec 8 #31

You don't think someone in middle America earning $75k per year isn't better off than someone earning $42k ? MichMan Dec 8 #45

More money is always better Renew Deal Dec 8 #49

Let's say you take two years at CC, transfer to a 4 yr college, take classes at night and earn an Engineering degree MichMan Dec 8 #54

If you could have your entire loan of $225k removed by agreeing to take a $33k annual pay cut the rest of your life... MichMan Dec 9 #73

Every statistic is better JT45242 Dec 9 #65

Make life more expensive and people will have less children. Yavin4 Dec 8 #3

More and more people I talk to are not going to college because it is not needed thatdemguy Dec 8 #5

25 years ago I started a job that demanded a college degree Orrex Dec 8 #6

Software engineers with computer science degrees are the exception Shermann Dec 8 #8

Not quite Lithos Dec 8 #38

I'm not sure about your binary characterization using made-up terms Shermann Dec 9 #79

I will disagree with you there. Lithos Dec 12 #82

Last grade I "graduated" from was 6th. Did some college. Taught at universities, worked around the world. erronis Dec 8 #40

Did they cover trade school numbers LittleGirl Dec 8 #7

There was a mention at the linked data site BumRushDaShow Dec 8 #12

Thanks! nt LittleGirl Dec 9 #58

By design. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Dec 8 #10

The birth rate went down. jimfields33 Dec 8 #34

Well, making abortion illegal and denying women's healthcare might reduce birthrates too... EastBayGuy Dec 8 #11

Well when a college education costs tens of thousands of dollars what do we expect? Jacson6 Dec 8 #13

Do people largely see college education as job training? Jim__ Dec 8 #14

Depends on your family situation exboyfil Dec 8 #35

Yet another public good completely ruined by the profit motive being applied to something it never should have been. Karasu Dec 8 #15

All four grandkids are going to BonnieJW Dec 8 #19

Great idea exboyfil Dec 8 #36

How does cost of CC compare with a state univ? JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 9 #63

It's too expansive for most - TBF Dec 8 #21

Iowa is fortunate in that it has great public colleges that aren't exboyfil Dec 8 #37

My son applied to a couple in Indiana - TBF Dec 8 #39

Wish your son the best exboyfil Dec 9 #55

thanks - TBF Dec 9 #74

The original "deal", as I recall it being sold, was dobleremolque Dec 8 #22

I went to college in the mid 70's in California kimbutgar Dec 8 #24

Excellent! That's just what the republicans want. choie Dec 8 #28

This election was decided by the most uneducated and uninformed electorate in history... Karasu Dec 8 #32

The birth rate fell. Elessar Zappa Dec 9 #68

Birthrate is a ruse Nigrum Cattus Dec 8 #41

Make America Dumb Again! tenderfoot Dec 8 #42

Hello to you!! BumRushDaShow Dec 8 #44

There's an over-abundance of people that think college is pointless unless you major in business or some bee ess tenderfoot Dec 8 #47

Yup BumRushDaShow Dec 8 #48

Who needs humanities or philosophy? tenderfoot Dec 8 #50

It's all part of the plan. GoYouPackersGo Dec 8 #46

There seems to be something fishy about this statistic.... reACTIONary Dec 8 #51

Who needs all that fancg learnin'? czarjak Dec 8 #52

In the Trump era it's not what you know, it's who you know. hay rick Dec 9 #56

Well... Mike Nelson Dec 9 #62

I'm a big proponent of technical College. Thats where I went & I retired at 53 Callie1979 Dec 9 #66

Oh no, that might eventually effect college football,say it aint so! BradBo Dec 9 #67

"Higher" education is bubble waiting to pop harun Dec 9 #69

We are going to regret this. Big time. "Dumb Down," indeed: DFW Dec 9 #77

The value of a college education far exceeds a debt-to-earnings calculus LearnedHand Dec 9 #80

Colleges should be obligated to guarantee graduates jobs pfitz59 Dec 9 #81