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14. He was 20 points behind in the polls after the debate

Sat Dec 28, 2024, 01:52 PM

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yes, I know "polls are meaningless, blah blah blah", and yet, Harris was even or slightly ahead in most polls during her short campaign.

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Biden reportedly regrets ending re-election campaign and says he'd have defeated Trump [View all] Polybius Saturday OP

He was running on a strong pro workers platform. ColinC Saturday #1

Harris was his chosen VP and never contradicted any of his policies or ideologies. Think. Again. Saturday #7

Correct Polybius Saturday #10

Still, she ran on her own plafform. His focus at the beginning (which was also the end) of his campaign ColinC Saturday #15

I think her problem was not saying it though Polybius Saturday #18

Yeah i think her whole campaign was trying to be too careful ColinC Saturday #20

I think she felt that it would be an attack on Biden, and she was very loyal to him Polybius Saturday #24

Yup! ColinC Saturday #25

She ran on her own platform. Not his. ColinC Saturday #11

Point to the evidence. Any evidence. Otherwise, it's malarkey. RockRaven Saturday #2

He was 20 points behind in the polls after the debate Fiendish Thingy Saturday #14

Agreed. I don't believe this for a second. ificandream Saturday #16

the evidence would be him making successful appearance after successful public appearance cadoman Tuesday #119

We'll simply never know True Dough Saturday #3

Nope Nasruddin Saturday #4

I don't agree. ificandream Saturday #19

What? Nasruddin Saturday #40

I don't think it was "baked in the cake". ificandream Sunday #106

Are we back to "un-named sources" again? Think. Again. Saturday #5

Welp, they were correct in July... Polybius Saturday #8

I feel sorry for President Biden. He has done his very best. Hope22 Saturday #6

That's an old saying? n/t Igel Sunday #100

Here ya go! PJMcK Sunday #102

I hope this is being misrepresented imaginary girl Saturday #9

I hope so too... Raastan Sunday #105

I don't see how he does any better qazplm135 Saturday #12

I place no blame on Harris. I believe her loss was due only to the notinkansas Saturday #21

I believe the same thing. LisaL Saturday #28

There's no one else who can take responsibility Nasruddin Saturday #41

No one else who can take responsibility? notinkansas Saturday #44

But I think there are reasons for this that are below the surface. LT Barclay Sunday #99

I mean the loss has many causes qazplm135 Saturday #50

Harris lost because uncledad Saturday #46

I'm sorry but no qazplm135 Saturday #49

We did not spend uncledad Saturday #59

Oh of course we did qazplm135 Saturday #94

While Harris could have run a more negative campaign, she did point out his well known negatives LymphocyteLover Saturday #95

Highly doubtful IMHO and water under the bridge in any case. Love you Joe. dutch777 Saturday #13

Trump was outpolling Joe since September 2023: not sure Joe would have even done as well as Kamala andym Saturday #17

Correct, if Biden had been on his game for first debate, MacKasey Saturday #22

Biden contacting Covid in late summer toke a huge toll on him IMHO........ riversedge Saturday #29

I don't recall Biden getting covid. Where did you get that? brush Saturday #32

Here--but you will find several articles about this...... riversedge Saturday #39

Ok. That was deep into the campaign and IMO didn't have much impact... brush Saturday #42

The covid was very convenient mr715 Saturday #56

This I agree with. Unfortunately Joe had a disastrous performance in the debate. brush Saturday #31

Debates don't mean much unless your a cable news bobble-head uncledad Saturday #47

Please. Clips of Joe's poor debate showing was ran over and over and over thousands of times... brush Saturday #48

Trump's debate performance was just as bad (against Kamala) crimycarny Saturday #58

Biden did worse than Trump mr715 Saturday #63

Both were bad in different ways crimycarny Saturday #73

Thank you for the thought experiment mr715 Saturday #80

I'll still remember Biden fondly crimycarny Saturday #85

You insight is appreciated. mr715 Saturday #86

Woah.. that's a reflection of Geuine Kindness from them! electric_blue68 Tuesday #118

And they were being run mr715 Saturday #60

Joe's performance uncledad Saturday #69

I couldn't disagree more. After that debate, Joe's chances to win went down the drain like it was flushed. brush Saturday #71

It was palpable mr715 Saturday #81

Your entitled to your opinion? uncledad Saturday #82

Yes I am, and I'm sticking with it. And so are you, BTW. brush Saturday #83

The debate mattered mr715 Saturday #51

Trump was beating Biden in NY mr715 Saturday #57

I love you, Joe but not a chance. Self Esteem Saturday #23

If JoeB believes he would have defeated the SlobFather I say stick with it sir NoMoreRepugs Saturday #26

This message was self-deleted by its author CrispyQ Saturday #27

I'm guessing Joe doesn't have regrets, especially the ones that haunt a person. I'm sure he KPN Saturday #30

Garland was certainly a drag on the campaign, what with his appointment of the rethug Cur to interview Joe... brush Saturday #33

Rec X1000 notinkansas Saturday #64

Oh come on mr715 Saturday #65

Sounds like malarkey to me, but what do I know? elleng Saturday #34

Given the way some of the people in Congress were turning on him and making no secret of it, I doubt he Vinca Saturday #35

The only regret is that he didn't declare he was not running again Ritabert Saturday #36

I agree with the President TheFarseer Saturday #37

My thoughts, too claudette Saturday #53

I Blame the Media - They fucked Biden over, but to this day they continue to Sanewash Pumpkin Spice Palpatine NEOBuckeye Saturday #38

+1000 crimycarny Saturday #77

Peace to him. Weʻre all hurting, canʻt imagine what he is going through. mahina Saturday #43

He's going to be fine mr715 Saturday #55

As much as I respect and admire President Biden, unfortunately he's wrong... SKKY Saturday #45

Agree with him about claudette Saturday #52

After his performance in the debate not a chance. It was clear he just wasn't up to doc03 Saturday #54

And it played into a narrative mr715 Saturday #66

Trump could get away with mindless word salad but the media only talked about Biden. nt doc03 Saturday #68

Yup. nt mr715 Saturday #75

This! Docreed2003 Saturday #70

That combined with his physical condition it was obvious age had caught up with him. If he doc03 Saturday #74

No need for this now. kacekwl Saturday #61

We Don't Need This DallasNE Saturday #62

The fact is over kacekwl Saturday #67

I strongly doubt Biden would have won. I'm disappointed he's disrespecting Harris like this. Martin68 Saturday #72

I thought that Pres Biden said he would be one term. JanMichael Saturday #76

Here is the WaPo profile the article is based on... reACTIONary Saturday #78

We'll never know, but snot Saturday #79

I'm sorry. Joe was a great president but he would have gotten smoked johnnyplankton Saturday #84

What a bunch late daisies. LakeArenal Saturday #87

The one big thing Biden had going for him Seasider Saturday #88

George W Bush wasn't too unpopular in 2004. StevieM Saturday #89

Bush was in the high 40's, and he barely won Electorally Polybius Saturday #92

Biden's approval rating was worse than Trump's in 2020. Self Esteem Monday #109

W Bush had higher approvals and it came down to one state (Ohio) JI7 Monday #110

He was pushed out, and he would have beat trump. Bluethroughu Saturday #90

The M$M hit squad was out to get Biden Blue Owl Saturday #91

I am sure that he sincerely believes that he would have won the election had he stayed in the race. totodeinhere Saturday #93

I don't think even President Obama would have won in this climate tulipsandroses Sunday #96

I think a younger Clinton would have won Polybius Sunday #97

Nope , Obama would have won for sure. JI7 Monday #111

Just my 2 cents but.... OhioBack2Blue Sunday #98

He's a president, not a magician! LeftInTX Sunday #101

He could have circumvented the courts and done a lot more for student loans with one signature. ForgoTheConsequence Sunday #107

Wrong. The Supreme Court would have stuck that down too. Self Esteem Monday #113

Truth is, we'll never know what would've happened had Biden stayed in Deminpenn Sunday #103

The fact this is the most commented post on DU today shows we've learned nothing. jvill Sunday #104

The so-called mainstream media is saving our asses every single day ... ificandream Tuesday #115

I'm sorry to say this, but the US news media were lined up against him FakeNoose Sunday #108

Biden's team is partly to blame. Self Esteem Monday #112

How were they lined up against him? ificandream Tuesday #117

In Solidarity union rep Tuesday #114

I think the problem was his running for reelection iemanja Tuesday #116