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Sat Dec 28, 2024, 05:41 PM

Dec 28

Absolutely. To everyone blaming Biden's bad debate performance I say they imagine if that had been Trump instead? Would it have mattered? NO. The media always held Biden to a much higher standard and just shrugged at Trump's behavior. What if Biden had swayed to music for 30 minutes at a rally? Or confused Nikki Haley with Nancy Pelosi? NO WAY would Biden have survived any of that. The media had already conditioned everyone to ignore Trump's bizarre behavior and obvious signs of cognitive decline as not newsworthy.

Dems screamed it from the rooftops but I think many of us, including myself, knew it wouldn't matter. The majority of voters just didn't seem to care, and the media is absolutely complicit in that.

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Biden reportedly regrets ending re-election campaign and says he'd have defeated Trump [View all] Polybius Dec 28 OP

He was running on a strong pro workers platform. ColinC Dec 28 #1

Harris was his chosen VP and never contradicted any of his policies or ideologies. Think. Again. Dec 28 #7

Correct Polybius Dec 28 #10

Still, she ran on her own plafform. His focus at the beginning (which was also the end) of his campaign ColinC Dec 28 #15

I think her problem was not saying it though Polybius Dec 28 #18

Yeah i think her whole campaign was trying to be too careful ColinC Dec 28 #20

I think she felt that it would be an attack on Biden, and she was very loyal to him Polybius Dec 28 #24

Yup! ColinC Dec 28 #25

She ran on her own platform. Not his. ColinC Dec 28 #11

Point to the evidence. Any evidence. Otherwise, it's malarkey. RockRaven Dec 28 #2

He was 20 points behind in the polls after the debate Fiendish Thingy Dec 28 #14

Agreed. I don't believe this for a second. ificandream Dec 28 #16

the evidence would be him making successful appearance after successful public appearance cadoman Dec 31 #119

We'll simply never know True Dough Dec 28 #3

Nope Nasruddin Dec 28 #4

I don't agree. ificandream Dec 28 #19

What? Nasruddin Dec 28 #40

I don't think it was "baked in the cake". ificandream Dec 29 #106

Are we back to "un-named sources" again? Think. Again. Dec 28 #5

Welp, they were correct in July... Polybius Dec 28 #8

I feel sorry for President Biden. He has done his very best. Hope22 Dec 28 #6

That's an old saying? n/t Igel Dec 29 #100

Here ya go! PJMcK Dec 29 #102

I hope this is being misrepresented imaginary girl Dec 28 #9

I hope so too... Raastan Dec 29 #105

I don't see how he does any better qazplm135 Dec 28 #12

I place no blame on Harris. I believe her loss was due only to the notinkansas Dec 28 #21

I believe the same thing. LisaL Dec 28 #28

There's no one else who can take responsibility Nasruddin Dec 28 #41

No one else who can take responsibility? notinkansas Dec 28 #44

But I think there are reasons for this that are below the surface. LT Barclay Dec 29 #99

I mean the loss has many causes qazplm135 Dec 28 #50

Harris lost because uncledad Dec 28 #46

I'm sorry but no qazplm135 Dec 28 #49

We did not spend uncledad Dec 28 #59

Oh of course we did qazplm135 Dec 28 #94

While Harris could have run a more negative campaign, she did point out his well known negatives LymphocyteLover Dec 28 #95

Highly doubtful IMHO and water under the bridge in any case. Love you Joe. dutch777 Dec 28 #13

Trump was outpolling Joe since September 2023: not sure Joe would have even done as well as Kamala andym Dec 28 #17

Correct, if Biden had been on his game for first debate, MacKasey Dec 28 #22

Biden contacting Covid in late summer toke a huge toll on him IMHO........ riversedge Dec 28 #29

I don't recall Biden getting covid. Where did you get that? brush Dec 28 #32

Here--but you will find several articles about this...... riversedge Dec 28 #39

Ok. That was deep into the campaign and IMO didn't have much impact... brush Dec 28 #42

The covid was very convenient mr715 Dec 28 #56

This I agree with. Unfortunately Joe had a disastrous performance in the debate. brush Dec 28 #31

Debates don't mean much unless your a cable news bobble-head uncledad Dec 28 #47

Please. Clips of Joe's poor debate showing was ran over and over and over thousands of times... brush Dec 28 #48

Trump's debate performance was just as bad (against Kamala) crimycarny Dec 28 #58

Biden did worse than Trump mr715 Dec 28 #63

Both were bad in different ways crimycarny Dec 28 #73

Thank you for the thought experiment mr715 Dec 28 #80

I'll still remember Biden fondly crimycarny Dec 28 #85

You insight is appreciated. mr715 Dec 28 #86

Woah.. that's a reflection of Geuine Kindness from them! electric_blue68 Dec 31 #118

And they were being run mr715 Dec 28 #60

Joe's performance uncledad Dec 28 #69

I couldn't disagree more. After that debate, Joe's chances to win went down the drain like it was flushed. brush Dec 28 #71

It was palpable mr715 Dec 28 #81

Your entitled to your opinion? uncledad Dec 28 #82

Yes I am, and I'm sticking with it. And so are you, BTW. brush Dec 28 #83

The debate mattered mr715 Dec 28 #51

Trump was beating Biden in NY mr715 Dec 28 #57

I love you, Joe but not a chance. Self Esteem Dec 28 #23

If JoeB believes he would have defeated the SlobFather I say stick with it sir NoMoreRepugs Dec 28 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author CrispyQ Dec 28 #27

I'm guessing Joe doesn't have regrets, especially the ones that haunt a person. I'm sure he KPN Dec 28 #30

Garland was certainly a drag on the campaign, what with his appointment of the rethug Cur to interview Joe... brush Dec 28 #33

Rec X1000 notinkansas Dec 28 #64

Oh come on mr715 Dec 28 #65

Sounds like malarkey to me, but what do I know? elleng Dec 28 #34

Given the way some of the people in Congress were turning on him and making no secret of it, I doubt he Vinca Dec 28 #35

The only regret is that he didn't declare he was not running again Ritabert Dec 28 #36

I agree with the President TheFarseer Dec 28 #37

My thoughts, too claudette Dec 28 #53

I Blame the Media - They fucked Biden over, but to this day they continue to Sanewash Pumpkin Spice Palpatine NEOBuckeye Dec 28 #38

+1000 crimycarny Dec 28 #77

Peace to him. Weʻre all hurting, canʻt imagine what he is going through. mahina Dec 28 #43

He's going to be fine mr715 Dec 28 #55

As much as I respect and admire President Biden, unfortunately he's wrong... SKKY Dec 28 #45

Agree with him about claudette Dec 28 #52

After his performance in the debate not a chance. It was clear he just wasn't up to doc03 Dec 28 #54

And it played into a narrative mr715 Dec 28 #66

Trump could get away with mindless word salad but the media only talked about Biden. nt doc03 Dec 28 #68

Yup. nt mr715 Dec 28 #75

This! Docreed2003 Dec 28 #70

That combined with his physical condition it was obvious age had caught up with him. If he doc03 Dec 28 #74

No need for this now. kacekwl Dec 28 #61

We Don't Need This DallasNE Dec 28 #62

The fact is over kacekwl Dec 28 #67

I strongly doubt Biden would have won. I'm disappointed he's disrespecting Harris like this. Martin68 Dec 28 #72

I thought that Pres Biden said he would be one term. JanMichael Dec 28 #76

Here is the WaPo profile the article is based on... reACTIONary Dec 28 #78

We'll never know, but snot Dec 28 #79

I'm sorry. Joe was a great president but he would have gotten smoked johnnyplankton Dec 28 #84

What a bunch late daisies. LakeArenal Dec 28 #87

The one big thing Biden had going for him Seasider Dec 28 #88

George W Bush wasn't too unpopular in 2004. StevieM Dec 28 #89

Bush was in the high 40's, and he barely won Electorally Polybius Dec 28 #92

Biden's approval rating was worse than Trump's in 2020. Self Esteem Dec 30 #109

W Bush had higher approvals and it came down to one state (Ohio) JI7 Dec 30 #110

He was pushed out, and he would have beat trump. Bluethroughu Dec 28 #90

The M$M hit squad was out to get Biden Blue Owl Dec 28 #91

I am sure that he sincerely believes that he would have won the election had he stayed in the race. totodeinhere Dec 28 #93

I don't think even President Obama would have won in this climate tulipsandroses Dec 29 #96

I think a younger Clinton would have won Polybius Dec 29 #97

Nope , Obama would have won for sure. JI7 Dec 30 #111

Just my 2 cents but.... OhioBack2Blue Dec 29 #98

He's a president, not a magician! LeftInTX Dec 29 #101

He could have circumvented the courts and done a lot more for student loans with one signature. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 29 #107

Wrong. The Supreme Court would have stuck that down too. Self Esteem Dec 30 #113

Truth is, we'll never know what would've happened had Biden stayed in Deminpenn Dec 29 #103

The fact this is the most commented post on DU today shows we've learned nothing. jvill Dec 29 #104

The so-called mainstream media is saving our asses every single day ... ificandream Dec 31 #115

I'm sorry to say this, but the US news media were lined up against him FakeNoose Dec 29 #108

Biden's team is partly to blame. Self Esteem Dec 30 #112

How were they lined up against him? ificandream Dec 31 #117

In Solidarity union rep Dec 31 #114

I think the problem was his running for reelection iemanja Dec 31 #116