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Dem4life1970

(931 posts)
47. It is self executing...
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 01:15 AM
Jan 2025

...it's too bad that SCROTUS ruled against Colorado, then 5 of them (Barrett disagreed/or voted and then wrote a dissent, if I remember right) turned around and pulled out of thin air the congressional requirement to enforce the 14th Amendment, Section 3.

If anything, they should've highlighted that they did NOT disagree with the Colorado Supreme Court's finding and the lower courts finding that he did engage in insurrection. They should've said he can be on the ballot, but he would not be allowed to take office according to the 14th amendment.

However, it is better for Democrats and the country if T**** is sworn in as the lamest of lame ducks, instead of Vance who could run again in 2028. I hope by 2026 the GOP is polling just above a plugged toilet in time for the midterms.

It is hard for a VP to run and win after a President's term. Only George HW Bush (and Biden-although he put a 4 year gap in there) have done so over the last 100 years or so.

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Regardless of what you think of it, Donald's earned it. bucolic_frolic Jan 2025 #1
Regardless of what you think of it, the constitution's language, until amended, is clear: ColinC Jan 2025 #6
TFG saying he wants to free the J6 rioters is giving aid and comfort to the enemy. OMGWTF Jan 2025 #21
Yep. This aside, he has unquestionably given aid and comfort to the enemy, having likely shared classified info ColinC Jan 2025 #22
I've thought for a long time the FBI knows what TSF has shared with Putin KS Toronado Jan 2025 #44
Yes, they know what he kept and did whatever with... Think. Again. Jan 2025 #56
And who got or bought access to all those documents. yorkster Jan 2025 #54
Almost EVERYONE who receives a pardon (except Nixon and Hunter Biden AFAIK) has been tried and kelly1mm Jan 2025 #53
Is there a conviction for this? Unladen Swallow Jan 2025 #26
No. Just several indictments. But that's not a necessary prerequisite ColinC Jan 2025 #30
Then who, or what body, makes the determination Unladen Swallow Jan 2025 #32
Congress has that authority. ColinC Jan 2025 #33
So the people will accept this ruling under the Constitution? Unladen Swallow Jan 2025 #40
There is no process. ColinC Jan 2025 #42
Exactly correct. 14A was a Reconstruction Era gift to future generations bucolic_frolic Jan 2025 #65
they use the term "adjudicated" -- I think from the Colorado Supreme Court ruling cadoman Jan 2025 #70
"An effort is underway to urge Congress ..." speak easy Jan 2025 #2
Unfortunitly true yankee87 Jan 2025 #39
The Picketts Charge theory of politics speak easy Jan 2025 #59
Any effort to resist installing a nazi administration is worthwhile. Think. Again. Jan 2025 #57
That is what the US Constitution says,... magicarpet Jan 2025 #3
.... recording the displeasure of the citizenry,... magicarpet Jan 2025 #4
Yes, protests must be strong, courageous, and often. Magoo48 Jan 2025 #14
I'm in Palm Springs which is geezerville now that the snowbirds are here (including me). OMGWTF Jan 2025 #23
Yup Magoo48 Jan 2025 #64
I'm so happy to hear this is happening William Seger Jan 2025 #5
Such a load of nonsense. He hasnt been CONVICTED of any of those charges. Period. Callie1979 Jan 2025 #7
The Constitution doesn't require a conviction. bucolic_frolic Jan 2025 #10
Well, we USED to do a lot of things differently.Yes, the SCOTUS is full of it but thats what we've got. Callie1979 Jan 2025 #11
No, it's quite credible.There is legitimacy behind the protests because everyone saw him do it. bucolic_frolic Jan 2025 #13
nearly half the voters saw it and voted for him though cadoman Jan 2025 #72
The SC didn't rule that TFG was eligible or that the 14th doesn't apply William Seger Jan 2025 #15
Thats not going to happen either. Callie1979 Jan 2025 #16
True, but the point of the protests is that he could and should be disqualified William Seger Jan 2025 #24
Congress already found that he engaged in an insurrection NYC Liberal Jan 2025 #34
An argument can be made that it has to fit the definition of a conviction in the Senate Polybius Jan 2025 #35
An argument can be made that the amendment means only what it says William Seger Jan 2025 #55
The problem with the 14th and many other Amendments is that the wording stinks Polybius Jan 2025 #76
That was a previous congress. MichMan Jan 2025 #46
There will be instigators in their midst Unladen Swallow Jan 2025 #27
Yep, that's to be expected with every Left action. Think. Again. Jan 2025 #58
If it was to succeed there would be a civil war anyway MichMan Jan 2025 #62
That is a very sobering Unladen Swallow Jan 2025 #63
Garland, Roberts, Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, Barrett Clouds Passing Jan 2025 #8
Yep; there's the problem. For a LOT of issues. Callie1979 Jan 2025 #12
Biggest weather event in the history of DC on multigraincracker Jan 2025 #9
how about -50F or an F6 twister? The Madcap Jan 2025 #19
I wish Taylor Swift would hold a concert down the street. Callie1979 Jan 2025 #25
Protesting now is a little bit too late IzzaNuDay Jan 2025 #17
Not really. The constitution is clear. We either honor it, or take another step towards the constitution not mattering ColinC Jan 2025 #18
After tomorrow is definitely too late though Polybius Jan 2025 #36
Yeah. And i mean... The constitution just needs to be followed. ColinC Jan 2025 #51
It is self executing... Dem4life1970 Jan 2025 #47
At the very least congress should override the requirement by a 2/3rds vote. ColinC Jan 2025 #48
This was a most unusual election in many ways MichMan Jan 2025 #52
I heard as lawyer who think's Trump should be disqualified say that he agrees with the CO decision Polybius Jan 2025 #75
If they attack the Capitol, maybe Trump will pardon them ... Jarqui Jan 2025 #20
Free speech and non-violent protest is what this country is all about. Petitioning of grievances is important always. nt Evolve Dammit Jan 2025 #28
If it goes on deaf ears The Grand Illuminist Jan 2025 #43
"Critics of President-elect Donald Trump have taken to the streets of Washington, D.C. ..." mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2025 #29
There was a little group out there at the Lincoln Memorial BumRushDaShow Jan 2025 #31
Isn't that pretty much an everyday occurance? LeftInTX Jan 2025 #84
Sure BumRushDaShow Jan 2025 #86
President Vance? Jose Garcia Jan 2025 #37
I'll take it. Because he won't be able to win over the Trumpers. Republicans in disarray ZonkerHarris Jan 2025 #41
As explained, it would be Harris ColinC Jan 2025 #49
She only received 226 electoral votes Jose Garcia Jan 2025 #66
It is if all or most of Trumps votes are not certified. ColinC Jan 2025 #68
If neither candidate receives a majority of electoral votes, Jose Garcia Jan 2025 #69
So if he's disqualified, who gets to be President on the 20th? Polybius Jan 2025 #38
Harris MichMan Jan 2025 #45
The exception being holding a 2/3rds vote to make an exception. ColinC Jan 2025 #50
They may admit it if Vance becomes President as a result of Trump's disqualification Polybius Jan 2025 #74
That would be a double punch for who the majority of voters elected Polybius Jan 2025 #73
I can see the Constitution being locked away into a time vault Aussie105 Jan 2025 #60
The 14th also applies to Congress MichMan Jan 2025 #61
According to the Constitution, Trump is a traitor: He should be hanged until he is dead, dead, dead. jvill Jan 2025 #67
It will take unquestionably devoted courageous people The Grand Illuminist Jan 2025 #71
Well it's over. The plan to block him did not work. The election was just certified. totodeinhere Jan 2025 #77
What plan? LeftInTX Jan 2025 #79
The plan that is the subject of this thread. n/t totodeinhere Jan 2025 #81
Yeah.. More like a thought . LeftInTX Jan 2025 #83
The 2022 Electoral Count Reform Act, which amended the previous Act(s) BumRushDaShow Jan 2025 #80
Yes. Of course Trump's attempted coup was the catalyst behind that law. n/t totodeinhere Jan 2025 #82
We screw ourselves a lot by passing laws that we think will help us Polybius Jan 2025 #85
Objections, in this case are usually formalities, LeftInTX Jan 2025 #87
This aged well!! LeftInTX Jan 2025 #78
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