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Bernardo de La Paz

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18. Nothing. Issue existed before tRump. Canada has its own politics, thank you very much
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 05:25 AM
Jan 6

Last edited Mon Jan 6, 2025, 07:34 AM - Edit history (1)


It is a particular kind of floating vague assumptive American arrogance -- almost floating in the air Americans breath -- that believes that nothing happens outside of America without an American impulse. It is true that American influence can be suffocating in some aspects when a country like Canada is cheek by jowl beside a country with 9 times larger population. But Canada has a different political system and different factors in operation.

Trudeau has been low in the polls for months since 2023 and somewhat before. Before tRump was the nominee. Before tRump debated Biden. Before and while it looked like Harris was going to win.

Christia Freeland's letter may have been the the final straw. It was certainly noted for its impact. Christia Freeland is a free woman who might become the Liberals' leader, and might thus be Canada's next Prime Minister. tRump has publicly expressed his dislike for her. She acted as a free agent with her letter. Surely the first hypothesis should be that she acted freely of her own volition. Surely the first hypothesis when something has developed over many months is that the person who only just gained partial power a couple of months ago was not the cause. Surely one should have at least some specific evidence before engaging in accusative speculation that takes as its hypothesis that the Canadians did not act on their own.

You as a free woman can ask any questions you like, and even post the same question several times in different threads as you have, but some questions that are framed as if there must be an American explanation for everything outside of the US come off as disrespectful, I'm sorry to have to say.

Note: I am sure you personally do not mean to be disrespectful, so I wrote most of this generally. I know tRump is capable of skulduggery but that does not make any kind of a base for speculation in this way.

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As head of the party. underpants Jan 5 #1
Very sad to hear this. 3catwoman3 Jan 5 #2
Fascinating. Unladen Swallow Jan 5 #3
This is bad news montanacowboy Jan 5 #4
Poilievre most likely DetroitLegalBeagle Jan 5 #10
Why are the liberals so badly viewed? AllyCat Jan 5 #13
Sounds like someone who only heard the one-sided sloganeering. calimary Jan 5 #14
Typically not. I don't know why she is so angry with AllyCat Jan 5 #15
Blame for inflation which has been fixed, blame for housing crisis, which is provincial Bernardo de La Paz Jan 6 #21
I live in Canada cabotnn22 Jan 6 #31
Citizens harassing other citizens? Omnipresent Jan 6 #33
I have no idea cabotnn22 Jan 6 #35
I've never heard of that kind of protests here in the US, but Omnipresent Jan 6 #40
They can't. EllieBC Jan 6 #42
and you know Trump will claim a victory DonCoquixote Jan 5 #5
Of course. Despite the fact that he has nothing to do with long standing Canadian political issues. . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 6 #20
Meidas reported he made the decision shortly after meeting with tiny getagrip_already Jan 6 #27
Meidas is wrong. Freeland's letter came after Trudeau met w tRump. Even then Trudeau was defiant about not resigning Bernardo de La Paz Jan 6 #36
Re: dirt... getagrip_already Jan 6 #38
Where there's fire there is smoke (metaphorically). You can't even bring smoke so I think you should stop now Bernardo de La Paz Jan 6 #39
Can't blame him really, now he won't have to kiss up to fascist a-hole neighbors FakeNoose Jan 5 #6
Running away with Melania? HereForTheParty Jan 5 #7
I'm 82. Still horny as hell and frustrated. But Melania? 3Hotdogs Jan 6 #17
Just as long as Canada doesn't become the 51st United State Unladen Swallow Jan 5 #8
Oh no. AloeVera Jan 5 #9
We survived Harper. We will survive Pierre Axe the Tax Poilievre if it comes to that. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 6 #19
It's bad to be an incumbent when inflation existed recently. Lucky Luciano Jan 5 #11
COVID strikes again qazplm135 Jan 5 #12
Trudeau's Liberals won an election in September 2021 Jose Garcia Jan 6 #22
And Biden won in 2020. But Americans voted him out. yardwork Jan 6 #25
They didnt vote biden out. getagrip_already Jan 6 #28
You are correct but my point stands. yardwork Jan 6 #30
He would have been voted out if he hadn't dropped out Jose Garcia Jan 6 #32
Maybe, but likely not getagrip_already Jan 6 #37
His polling was substantially worse qazplm135 Jan 6 #44
All a result of dem attacks.... getagrip_already Jan 6 #46
I'm sorry but that's fantasy qazplm135 Jan 7 #47
We have to disagree, but getagrip_already Jan 7 #48
So basically qazplm135 Jan 7 #52
the far left contributed. I'm not blaming progressives for anything getagrip_already Jan 7 #53
So again qazplm135 Jan 7 #54
His internal polling was terrible. Elessar Zappa Jan 6 #45
That was during Covid qazplm135 Jan 6 #43
Probably more of the post-covid inflation rurallib Jan 6 #26
I wonder what TRAITOR** threatened him with? niyad Jan 5 #16
Nothing. Issue existed before tRump. Canada has its own politics, thank you very much Bernardo de La Paz Jan 6 #18
Thank you for your most informative response, it was most appreciated. niyad Jan 6 #23
You are welcome. It's an easy trap to fall into for Americans and I don't fault you personally. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 6 #24
Meidas reported he made the decision after meeting with tiny getagrip_already Jan 6 #29
Meidas is wrong. Freeland's letter came after Trudeau met w tRump. Even then Trudeau was defiant about not resigning Bernardo de La Paz Jan 6 #34
The authoritarian trend in North America has not hit Mexico yet. Mexico is trending liberal delisen Jan 6 #41
Oh, boy! More bad news... Rhiannon12866 Jan 7 #49
This is good news Jose Garcia Jan 7 #50
So would you rather True Dough Jan 7 #51
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