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25. Wrong! 10/7 was a horrific terrorist attack, but not an existential issue for Israel, just as 9/11 was not

Mon Jan 13, 2025, 08:19 PM

Jan 13

an existential threat to the US.

The Palestinians do not have fighter aircraft, tanks, 500 lb or 2000 lb bombs, cruise missiles, a navy, or nuclear weapons. Israel has been an existential threat to the Palestinians since the Nakba. Israel has systematically taken their land, diverted their water sources, destroyed their homes and crops, and shot their children through the barrier fences. Look at what's been going on in Gaza and the West Bank for the last year, if you don't believe me. Who exactly is on the brink of extermination here?

If Israel doesn't need our weapons, then why are they the largest recipient of US weapons in the world?

Israel is a major weapons exporter, but its military has been heavily reliant on imported aircraft, guided bombs and missiles to conduct what experts have described as one of the most intense and destructive aerial campaigns in recent history.

Campaign groups and some politicians among Israel's Western allies say arms exports should be suspended because, they say, Israel is failing to do enough to protect the lives of civilians and ensure enough humanitarian aid reaches them.
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The US is by far the biggest supplier of arms to Israel, having helped it build one of the most technologically sophisticated militaries in the world.

According to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), the US accounted for 69% of Israel's imports of major conventional arms between 2019 and 2023.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68737412

See post #24 above for more detail.

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Biden calls for immediate ceasefire in call with Netanyahu, White House says [View all] BumRushDaShow Jan 12 OP

Biden (and likely Netanyahu) would rather see this happen on Biden's watch than his successor's ificandream Jan 12 #1

For some reason BumRushDaShow Jan 12 #2

... C0RI0LANUS Jan 12 #7

I think netanyahu will wait until Trump is inaugurated drray23 Jan 12 #3

At this point I agree. I wish Biden had used more leverage earlier on. Just handed Hamas et. al. future recruits by... dutch777 Jan 12 #4

It's always been on Netanyahu. Not us. LeftInTX Jan 12 #11

I also agree - Netanyahu and Trump are 2 peas in a pod. Like with Carter walkingman Jan 12 #5

"Israel could have declared victory months ago. " endgenocide Jan 13 #16

He could never declare victory Sundance1220 Jan 13 #19

When I said declare victory - I honestly believe that Israel and Hamas could have come to walkingman Jan 13 #23

you think Hamas would have given back all the hostages? Er... why, exactly? Why would they give up their leverage? thebigidea Jan 13 #28

It's not hard to understand Sundance1220 Jan 14 #32

Theatre for the history books. Biden could have Gaugamela Jan 12 #6

How? It's Netanyahu's decision. He's doing it to please Trump. LeftInTX Jan 12 #12

Where does Israel get it's unending supply of weapons? Gaugamela Jan 12 #13

They have their own and can get them from Trump if they want. LeftInTX Jan 13 #14

Israel has received unparalleled US support in way of weapons since its inception. Gaugamela Jan 13 #24

So. Are you blaming Biden???? Did Biden tell them to kill the Palestinians?? LeftInTX Jan 13 #30

If you say so . . . Gaugamela Jan 13 #31

Wrong. maxsolomon Jan 13 #17

Wrong! 10/7 was a horrific terrorist attack, but not an existential issue for Israel, just as 9/11 was not Gaugamela Jan 13 #25

Given that the Holocaust is generational trauma for many Israeli Jews, maxsolomon Jan 13 #27

The Palestinians weren't responsible for the Holocaust. -- Over and out. Gaugamela Jan 13 #29

No, but they sided with hitler Sundance1220 Jan 14 #36

Didn't say they were. maxsolomon Jan 14 #37

Without hamas releasing all the hostages? Sundance1220 Jan 13 #20

Netanyahu doesn't give a rat's ass about the hostages. That's what all the protests in Israel have been about. Gaugamela Jan 13 #26

Good faith? Hamas? Sundance1220 Jan 14 #33

The question is whether Netanyahu can negotiate in good faith, which is what Gaugamela Jan 14 #34

Meanwhile Israel is the side that HAS Sundance1220 Jan 14 #35

Joe should have pressed harder on this before the election, Jack Valentino Jan 12 #8

Seems like he might have endgenocide Jan 12 #9

That SALE is not a done deal, but it is certainly likely. maxsolomon Jan 13 #18

It's all on Netanyahu, not Biden. It always has been. LeftInTX Jan 12 #10

How many billions have we given to Israel? womanofthehills Jan 13 #21

So, are you blaming Biden? LeftInTX Jan 13 #22

Hang it up Joe pfitz59 Jan 13 #15