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osteopath6

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28. Its not just a Trump problem.

Mon Jan 20, 2025, 09:27 PM

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Has the power to pardon been used as intended in more than a handful of cases? Allowing anyone to overrule a peer justice system is dangerous. Not allowing them too, is, dangerous.

The legal system is pretty poor. Whether its these guys or any number of other people incarcerated, I don't personally know anyone who will say with confidence that our current system works.

And what does works even mean?

Are we restoring the victim?
Retraining the offender?
Exacting crude punishment just because?

My own preference is a mix of the first two, with a healthy serving of "public interest" taken into consideration.

The flurry of prosecutions looked to many how the Hunter Biden persecution was.. they started with a person and found the crimes to confirm their belief they must be guilty of something if only they looked hard enough. That's also wrong.

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Trump pardons roughly 1,500 criminal defendants charged in the Jan. 6 Capitol attack [View all] riversedge Monday OP

This is what will let loose the hatred mobs. They will say tRump has our back as they hurt people. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Monday #1

My daughter lives on Capitol Hill in DC AverageOldGuy Monday #7

There is a good chances charges will be dropped. The Grand Illuminist Monday #23

If my memory holds accurately, Entrapment applies to certain government, not those of private citizens. n/t 24601 Monday #34

Unless her neighbor convinced those guys to go out and get those guns,... LudwigPastorius Monday #36

I think it would only be entrapment razorman03038 13 hrs ago #48

You think they will be charged with sitting and chatting? dpibel 10 hrs ago #55

That is an amazing story! Well done. I trust there will be no revenge. And tRump can't pardon them. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz 18 hrs ago #38

Clever guy, but I have to wonder if... JHB 14 hrs ago #46

Two of these assholes live in my rural VA county AverageOldGuy Monday #2

Fuck Trump and Fuck Enrique Tarrio. May karma give them both what they deserve. emulatorloo Monday #3

I am empty, nothing left in the tank. bottomofthehill Monday #4

Dems have to follow the law, MAGAs don't. Irish_Dem Monday #5

Hey, SCOTUS declared crime isn't illegal if Trump does it. emulatorloo Monday #8

That's pretty much all of them. What a grotesque insult to the police officers Ocelot II Monday #6

Even his toady Bondi said the violent offenders shouldn't be pardoned. But yeah it really really sucks emulatorloo Monday #10

Looks to me like they have turned our entire Judicial System into a Kangaroo Court for themselves and not for Democrats! ReRe 12 hrs ago #51

"Back the Blue" is a merchandising grift... EarthFirst Monday #9

Her comes his own little SS and gestapo nt Javaman Monday #11

Of course yellow dahlia Monday #16

All those Garland/DOJ defenders who pointed to these convictions as RockRaven Monday #12

There goes Garland's legacy as AG gab13by13 Monday #14

So now you're blaming Garland for Trump's pardons, too? Ocelot II Monday #21

Garland is a huge reason we have his lowness in the first place. Maybe the primary reason. Lucky Luciano Monday #26

IMHO ReRe 11 hrs ago #54

All Dems had to do was show up and vote for the black lady Blue_Tires 13 hrs ago #50

When he makes them his brown shirts, they'll be free to break the law, they know he has their back. dem4decades Monday #13

This not going to end well for shithole............. Lovie777 Monday #15

In all seriousness gab13by13 Monday #17

"The pardon power is not being used as it is supposed to be used." J_William_Ryan Monday #18

Its not just a Trump problem. osteopath6 Monday #28

You can bet some of these assholes will be back in jail before this term of office is in the grave. Historic NY Monday #19

They'll probably get pardoned again. Ocelot II Monday #22

I will never forget or forgive, they are traitors and felons and nothing will change that. republianmushroom Monday #20

mic sucker Marthe48 Monday #24

Every single one should have gotten the death penalty...or at least life at Florence SuperMax. Lucky Luciano Monday #25

no one should get the death penalty. Groundhawg Monday #29

I disagree. The most heinous need to go. Lucky Luciano Monday #32

Criminal defendants? Convicted criminals. bucolic_frolic Monday #27

Correct. The convicted criminals are being pardoned and those who have been indicted whose cases have not been totodeinhere Monday #33

Not that it matters because the slime literally seems to be able to do whatever he wants BUT... Lokee11 Monday #30

Did he pardon those who blamed him personally for leading them to riot keithbvadu2 Monday #31

How did that "bottom up" strategy work out for you, former AG Garland? LudwigPastorius Monday #35

Just like Putin has been pardoning psychopaths, thugs, and miscreants to fight against Ukraine. C0RI0LANUS Monday #37

All criminals bdamomma 17 hrs ago #39

True Colors Shining Through MayReasonRule 17 hrs ago #40

he's counting on them helping with his deportation program 4catsmom 17 hrs ago #41

I hope cops keep tabs on them tonekat 15 hrs ago #42

Mussolini had his Black Shirts and Trump had his J-6th thugs. Botany 15 hrs ago #43

Should be mandatory EddieOnTheMesa 15 hrs ago #44

Enough with the "thin blue line" BS... NT bee_peaceful 14 hrs ago #45

May they never find decent jobs tonekat 13 hrs ago #47

Trump says: Aussie105 13 hrs ago #49

There was literally ten times more media pundit outrage over Hunter Biden Blue_Tires 12 hrs ago #52

Just looked on MSNBC,NOTHING spelled out about this on the front page. It should be in huge letters Bengus81 11 hrs ago #53

What about the Capitol and Metropolitan police who died? Some of these violent insurrectionists committed murder Rhiannon12866 10 hrs ago #56

Roughly?? How about an actual number from DOC? Evolve Dammit 7 hrs ago #57

Unlike a pardon, a commutation does not forgive the crime blueseas 7 hrs ago #58