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riversedge

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47. .....A week ago, the Heritage Foundation, one of Washington's leading conservative think tanks and behind much of this a
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 10:31 AM
Mar 17



Trump says that the pardons signed by Biden "are null" and threatens the congressmen
he blames for the "witch hunt" against him
Story by Pablo R. Suanzes • 4h • 5 min read

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-that-the-pardons-signed-by-biden-are-null-and-threatens-the-congressmen-he-blames-for-the-witch-hunt-against-him/ar-AA1B4dJ2?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=a71bb0b0f111456fb59f42e642c2365b&ei=5

Ah, looks like the Heritage Foundation is behind this crap!!


............A week ago, the Heritage Foundation, one of Washington's leading conservative think tanks and behind much of this administration's program, published a report stating that many documents signed by President Joe Biden, including dozens of executive orders, were signed with an automatic pen, questioning who was pulling the strings during the former president's four-year term.

"WHOEVER CONTROLLED THE AUTOMATIC PEN CONTROLLED THE PRESIDENCY," wrote the Oversight Project in a post last Thursday. "We collected all the documents we could find with Biden's signature throughout his presidency. All used the same signature with an automatic pen, except for the announcement that the former president was withdrawing from the race last year," the document explains.

Since then, Trump and his team have been pondering. The Autopen is a very common tool that presidents (including Trump), senators, congressmen, and state officials have been using for decades. The issue is not the tool but the decision. If it has the politician's approval, it's normal. If it's done without their knowledge and approval, it's illegal and a serious offense. The narrative circulating in Washington these days goes in that direction, with conservative publications like The New York Post, owned by Rupert Murdoch, stating that a close assistant of Biden could have been making decisions without his boss's knowledge, being the shadow president.

Something that in the case of the pardons makes no sense because they were very controversial decisions, well thought out, and above all, very personal. However, what Trump's advisors are looking for is an indirect way to get to the bottom of it. "For investigators to determine if then-President Biden actually ordered the signing of relevant legal documents, or if he even had the mental capacity to do so, they must first determine who controlled the automatic pen and what controls were in place," stated the Heritage Foundation's Oversight Project, suggesting that the president was not fit and therefore the decisions are not legitimate. The former president is covered by immunity, but his team is not. That's why, for example, Missouri's Republican attorney general, Andrew Bailey, sent a letter to the Department of Justice last Wednesday demanding an investigation into whether Biden's "cognitive decline" allowed unelected personnel to push radical policies without his consent. To be investigated.

On Friday, from the Oval Office and while discussing military spending, Trump lashed out at his predecessor, calling him an "extremely incompetent man. Just take a look to see that he signs with an automatic pen. Who signs all this with an automatic pen? Who would sign important documents with an automatic pen?" Trump asked journalists, boasting about how he signs all his executive orders in person, often in front of cameras. "The documents you sign are important, and you take pride in signing them. Can you imagine if everything was signed with an automatic pen? It should never have happened," he said disdainfully.

"Our practice regarding the use of the Autopen is much more restrictive than that of most previous administrations. We do not use it for documents exercising presidential powers. For example, we do not use it for executive orders, presidential memoranda, decision memoranda, nominations, orders or appointment commissions, or for bills that need to be signed. We do not even use it for more routine purposes, such as inviting foreign leaders to the White House. The president personally signs all these documents, in the presence of witnesses. Occasionally, we will use it when a single document requires multiple presidential signatures, or when multiple copies of the same document require signing, but only after the president has personally signed and solely under his direction," states a memorandum distributed by Trump's team accessed by the New York Post.

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He is regressing into infancy, almost Walleye Mar 17 #1
He is King Canute ordering the tide to stop coming in Botany Mar 17 #26
That's a legend, but the message behind it has been misunderstood. Aristus Mar 17 #38
thanx Botany Mar 17 #39
Just another day in puke paradise Blues Heron Mar 17 #2
Everyday is worse.............. Lovie777 Mar 17 #3
Impeachment wouldn't even get through the House gab13by13 Mar 17 #13
If impeachment wouldn't, the 25th Amendment has even less chance. rsdsharp Mar 17 #50
Another day in Bizzaro America . . . SarcasticSatyr Mar 17 #4
If this is taken seriously by the DOJ and they if prosecute the members of the Jan 6 Committee tetedur Mar 17 #5
He does not claudette Mar 17 #6
Yes, yes, yes, I'm sure they're quaking in their boots. Buddyzbuddy Mar 17 #7
His mind is gelatinous goo C_U_L8R Mar 17 #8
He's already backed down to saying it's not his decision, it's a court's Emrys Mar 17 #9
But Not Before Having Started Another Shit-Storm! Daleuhlmann Mar 17 #57
Trump is becoming more manic with psychosis. Irish_Dem Mar 17 #10
Much of it is on the teleprompter; he didn't write it Evolve Dammit Mar 17 #17
I wonder who is coming up with the ideas, and who is writing the script? Irish_Dem Mar 17 #19
Same Evolve Dammit Mar 17 #28
Steven Miller Deminpenn Mar 17 #37
Time for the men in white coats to take him away surfered Mar 17 #11
I thought this kind of shit wouldn't happen if Governement stayed open?? Bengus81 Mar 17 #12
Passing the CR has emboldened Krasnov. gab13by13 Mar 17 #14
Bullseye - In Point Of Fact It Does Just The Opposite - It Emboldens The Fascists Further MayReasonRule Mar 17 #15
Hey, Chuck knows better than you do! durablend Mar 17 #25
It had better fucking backfire. 2naSalit Mar 17 #16
Distraction from the looming economic collapse. bronxiteforever Mar 17 #18
Soon... Jughead Mar 17 #20
Why doesn't he just fucking die already? Orrex Mar 17 #21
President JD Vance is a pretty enormous downside. VTderry Mar 17 #58
Yeah, but that'll probably happen anyway Orrex Mar 17 #61
Are we great again yet? Mr. Evil Mar 17 #22
Yup Joinfortmill Mar 17 #24
Impeach him! Joinfortmill Mar 17 #23
All Biden would have to do is say he knew and approved of the pardons. JohnnyRingo Mar 17 #27
Yes, and Biden already formally announced the blinking pardons in front of the press at the time! Emrys Mar 17 #40
The Rainman4u2C Mar 18 #63
The principle is the same. A president's hand doesn't need hold a pen contacting paper for it the signature be valid. Emrys Mar 18 #64
Who's going to tell him he is not wearing any cloths? multigraincracker Mar 17 #29
The implications of this are obvious. I'd bet everything I own that shitler used an autopen Mc Mike Mar 17 #30
He probably used it everytime he was at Mar-a-Lago or Bedminster BumRushDaShow Mar 17 #31
Yep. He's even more lazy than Harding, Raygun, li'l bush. The laziest nazi Mc Mike Mar 17 #35
It's a smash hit. dchill Mar 17 #32
All Trumps Covid checks are void because Johonny Mar 17 #33
snorkk AllaN01Bear Mar 17 #34
He needs to be treated like a rabid animal. Texin Mar 17 #36
"Biden's cognitive decline" Dave Bowman Mar 17 #41
_ LudwigPastorius Mar 17 #62
The plan to end democracy Playingmantis Mar 17 #42
Interestingly enough, it was the Heritage Foundation D. Spaulding Mar 17 #43
The Heritage Foundation actually has some educated people who READ the news and know how to research FakeNoose Mar 17 #59
So.... Just Jerome Mar 17 #44
First FUCK TRUMP......see I can do what he does ..............second what size helmet rubber does he wear............. turbinetree Mar 17 #45
Make the call... Moostache Mar 17 #46
.....A week ago, the Heritage Foundation, one of Washington's leading conservative think tanks and behind much of this a riversedge Mar 17 #47
Middle of the night post Bayard Mar 17 #48
Would this mean that all of trumps pardons can be nulled and voided also ? republianmushroom Mar 17 #49
He gets everything he wants and still isnt happy. prodigitalson Mar 17 #51
MaddowBlog-Trump says he's invalidating some Biden pardons, claiming power he doesn't have LetMyPeopleVote Mar 17 #52
presidents have used Autopens for decades mike_c Mar 17 #53
This is manufactured like the nonsense he spewed about everyone else "using a teleprompter" BumRushDaShow Mar 17 #55
"...Trump, who also used autopen during his first term." Beartracks Mar 17 #54
Is he dead yet? Blue Owl Mar 17 #56
Pretty sure his brain is ... FakeNoose Mar 17 #60
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