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52. MaddowBlog-Trump says he's invalidating some Biden pardons, claiming power he doesn't have
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 01:42 PM
Mar 17

Donald Trump doesn’t have the authority to invalidate Joe Biden’s pardons. The Republican is apparently simply asserting the right anyway.


If you're just getting up, shortly after midnight, Trump simply asserted that he has the authority to invalidate some of Biden's pardons – which is every bit as radical and bonkers as it seems



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-says-s-invalidating-biden-pardons-claiming-power-doesnt-rcna196671

There’s a lot to unpack in this 158-word harangue, and there’s probably no point in highlighting every individual error of fact and judgment. The bottom line, however, is relatively straightforward: Trump claims that Biden didn’t actually sign pardons for members of the bipartisan House Jan. 6 committee, so as far as the Republican is concerned, prosecutors are free to go after them, despite the fact that there’s literally no evidence that they did anything wrong.

The entire pitch is based on the president’s apparent belief that (a) his immediate predecessor used an autopen to sign the pardons; (b) documents signed by autopens don’t count; and (c) Biden suffered from mental deterioration to such a horrific degree that he wasn’t aware of his own policies and preferences.

The first point is dubious, given that there’s no evidence that Biden used the tool to issue the pardons; the second point appears unsupported by law; and the third point is offensive on its face.

But let’s also not lose sight of the forest for the trees: For the first time in American history, a sitting president is asserting the right to invalidate a predecessor’s pardons.

In other words, as the United States deals with a sustained offensive against the rule of law, Trump has made up a new power for himself that does not exist.

To be sure, there’s often a disconnect between what Trump says he’s doing and what he’s actually doing. The Republican has now claimed in writing that he’s voiding some Biden-era pardons, but given recent history, it’s entirely possible that in the coming hours and days, the White House will pretend he never actually published such a message. Perhaps, in other words, this radicalism will soon be forgotten.

But if Trump seriously takes steps to undo Biden's pardons, because he feels like it, the coming fight will be dramatic.

Even though trump's full tweet was in this article, I did not include it in this post. I do my best to NOT post trump's rants directly,
I have seen that trump really wants to go after Liz Cheney and other J6 Committee members. If trump tries to claim that pardons he dislikes are invalid, it will be a fun fight.

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He is regressing into infancy, almost Walleye Mar 17 #1
He is King Canute ordering the tide to stop coming in Botany Mar 17 #26
That's a legend, but the message behind it has been misunderstood. Aristus Mar 17 #38
thanx Botany Mar 17 #39
Just another day in puke paradise Blues Heron Mar 17 #2
Everyday is worse.............. Lovie777 Mar 17 #3
Impeachment wouldn't even get through the House gab13by13 Mar 17 #13
If impeachment wouldn't, the 25th Amendment has even less chance. rsdsharp Mar 17 #50
Another day in Bizzaro America . . . SarcasticSatyr Mar 17 #4
If this is taken seriously by the DOJ and they if prosecute the members of the Jan 6 Committee tetedur Mar 17 #5
He does not claudette Mar 17 #6
Yes, yes, yes, I'm sure they're quaking in their boots. Buddyzbuddy Mar 17 #7
His mind is gelatinous goo C_U_L8R Mar 17 #8
He's already backed down to saying it's not his decision, it's a court's Emrys Mar 17 #9
But Not Before Having Started Another Shit-Storm! Daleuhlmann Mar 17 #57
Trump is becoming more manic with psychosis. Irish_Dem Mar 17 #10
Much of it is on the teleprompter; he didn't write it Evolve Dammit Mar 17 #17
I wonder who is coming up with the ideas, and who is writing the script? Irish_Dem Mar 17 #19
Same Evolve Dammit Mar 17 #28
Steven Miller Deminpenn Mar 17 #37
Time for the men in white coats to take him away surfered Mar 17 #11
I thought this kind of shit wouldn't happen if Governement stayed open?? Bengus81 Mar 17 #12
Passing the CR has emboldened Krasnov. gab13by13 Mar 17 #14
Bullseye - In Point Of Fact It Does Just The Opposite - It Emboldens The Fascists Further MayReasonRule Mar 17 #15
Hey, Chuck knows better than you do! durablend Mar 17 #25
It had better fucking backfire. 2naSalit Mar 17 #16
Distraction from the looming economic collapse. bronxiteforever Mar 17 #18
Soon... Jughead Mar 17 #20
Why doesn't he just fucking die already? Orrex Mar 17 #21
President JD Vance is a pretty enormous downside. VTderry Mar 17 #58
Yeah, but that'll probably happen anyway Orrex Mar 17 #61
Are we great again yet? Mr. Evil Mar 17 #22
Yup Joinfortmill Mar 17 #24
Impeach him! Joinfortmill Mar 17 #23
All Biden would have to do is say he knew and approved of the pardons. JohnnyRingo Mar 17 #27
Yes, and Biden already formally announced the blinking pardons in front of the press at the time! Emrys Mar 17 #40
The Rainman4u2C Mar 18 #63
The principle is the same. A president's hand doesn't need hold a pen contacting paper for it the signature be valid. Emrys Mar 18 #64
Who's going to tell him he is not wearing any cloths? multigraincracker Mar 17 #29
The implications of this are obvious. I'd bet everything I own that shitler used an autopen Mc Mike Mar 17 #30
He probably used it everytime he was at Mar-a-Lago or Bedminster BumRushDaShow Mar 17 #31
Yep. He's even more lazy than Harding, Raygun, li'l bush. The laziest nazi Mc Mike Mar 17 #35
It's a smash hit. dchill Mar 17 #32
All Trumps Covid checks are void because Johonny Mar 17 #33
snorkk AllaN01Bear Mar 17 #34
He needs to be treated like a rabid animal. Texin Mar 17 #36
"Biden's cognitive decline" Dave Bowman Mar 17 #41
_ LudwigPastorius Mar 17 #62
The plan to end democracy Playingmantis Mar 17 #42
Interestingly enough, it was the Heritage Foundation D. Spaulding Mar 17 #43
The Heritage Foundation actually has some educated people who READ the news and know how to research FakeNoose Mar 17 #59
So.... Just Jerome Mar 17 #44
First FUCK TRUMP......see I can do what he does ..............second what size helmet rubber does he wear............. turbinetree Mar 17 #45
Make the call... Moostache Mar 17 #46
.....A week ago, the Heritage Foundation, one of Washington's leading conservative think tanks and behind much of this a riversedge Mar 17 #47
Middle of the night post Bayard Mar 17 #48
Would this mean that all of trumps pardons can be nulled and voided also ? republianmushroom Mar 17 #49
He gets everything he wants and still isnt happy. prodigitalson Mar 17 #51
MaddowBlog-Trump says he's invalidating some Biden pardons, claiming power he doesn't have LetMyPeopleVote Mar 17 #52
presidents have used Autopens for decades mike_c Mar 17 #53
This is manufactured like the nonsense he spewed about everyone else "using a teleprompter" BumRushDaShow Mar 17 #55
"...Trump, who also used autopen during his first term." Beartracks Mar 17 #54
Is he dead yet? Blue Owl Mar 17 #56
Pretty sure his brain is ... FakeNoose Mar 17 #60
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