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Mr. Sparkle

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Fri Mar 21, 2025, 09:59 AM Mar 21

Trump Admin Threatens to Stop Social Security If DOGE Can't Have Data [View all]

Source: Rolling Stone

Trump’s interim Social Security chief says he wants to turn off the program if Musk and DOGE can’t access Americans’ most sensitive data. Donald Trump’s interim Social Security chief suggested Thursday night he will effectively turn off the agency that manages the essential safety net program for seniors and the disabled, if Elon Musk and his so-called Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) can’t access the non-anonymized sensitive personal information and data of hundreds of millions of Americans, based on a judge’s order.

“My anti-fraud team would be DOGE affiliates. My IT staff would be DOGE affiliates,” said Lee Dudek, acting Social Security Administration (SSA) commissioner, arguing the order was too broad, according to Bloomberg News. “As it stands, I will follow it exactly and terminate access by all SSA employees to our IT systems,” he said, adding: “Really, I want to turn it off and let the courts figure out how they want to run a federal agency.”

Dudek’s threat to block SSA employees from using the agency’s IT systems — a move that could halt Social Security payments — came in response to a judge’s temporary restraining order in a case brought by the AFL-CIO labor union. The order bars Social Security Administration officials from allowing DOGE, including Musk, and the SSA’s DOGE team to access personally identifiable information. It also directs Musk and DOGE to delete from their possession all non-anonymized personal data, and bars them from having access to SSA computers or code.

Judge Ellen Lipton Hollander wrote that the SSA had likely violated administrative and privacy laws when it gave DOGE “unbridled access to the personal and private data of millions of Americans, including but not limited to Social Security numbers, medical records, mental health records, hospitalization records, drivers’ license numbers, bank and credit card information, tax information, income history, work history, birth and marriage certificates, and home and work addresses.” She added that the “defendants, with so-called experts on the DOGE Team, never identified or articulated even a single reason for which the DOGE Team needs unlimited access to SSA’s entire record systems, thereby exposing personal, confidential, sensitive, and private information that millions of Americans entrusted to their government.”

Read more: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-musk-stop-social-security-doge-data-1235300785/

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Why would they need any of that information? Wingus Dingus Mar 21 #1
I disagree. They're looking for something. Baitball Blogger Mar 21 #8
They will plant fake evidence if they cannot find any BlueKota Mar 21 #14
Yes they are doing this for specific reasons. Irish_Dem Mar 21 #18
I don't think so OG MoneyClips Mar 21 #108
Well yes of course that is one of the specific reasons. Irish_Dem Mar 21 #116
Or...they are putting back doors to the computer systems... diverdownjt Mar 22 #144
Yes I think there is a high probability of hacking the system for theft purposes. Irish_Dem Mar 22 #146
Ah yes, that is also a possibility PatSeg Mar 22 #149
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Mar 22 #156
They want to steal the money Easterncedar Mar 21 #46
They'll PLANT 'evidence' & then come for you. NotHardly Mar 21 #58
Simpler IbogaProject Mar 21 #62
They'll plant stuff. But the money is what they are looking for, & they mean to have it Hekate Mar 21 #63
You mean someone beat them to it? n/t returnee Mar 21 #103
Sorry this is ridiculous angrychair Mar 21 #106
They are hackers...it's what they do... diverdownjt Mar 22 #145
I think their objectives are far more sinister than that PatSeg Mar 22 #148
Time to French Revolution Trump, MuskOx and all the GOPig politicisns !!!! Trueblue1968 Mar 21 #110
I think another reason might be pure terrorism. ReRe Mar 21 #120
Being a person that usually Littlered Mar 22 #152
We may be old C_U_L8R Mar 21 #2
And the resistance knows how to read & write cursive. CrispyQ Mar 21 #24
etterbe arefulca nt et tu Mar 21 #32
ixnay on the rumptray lanplay? It's been awhile.... Evolve Dammit Mar 21 #69
Medieval indeed. Prairie_Seagull Mar 21 #48
A life sentence doesn't mean that much to us old people OMGWTF Mar 21 #61
This is why they have massive security squads. Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 21 #134
And I'm waiting... ComtesseDeSpair Mar 22 #147
Wrong move................... Lovie777 Mar 21 #3
Yes, Chump is about to alienate a large number of people who voted for him FakeNoose Mar 21 #73
He won't find any illegal aliens, but plenty of $$$. Wednesdays Mar 21 #82
2.7 TRILLION pbmus Mar 22 #139
If there weren't all those Republicans screaming at their reps at town halls we'd know Bengus81 Mar 22 #153
There will be a lot of pissed off people who would want to kick his ass 😡😡 TommieMommy Mar 21 #4
There will also be a lot of people thrown out on the street when they (WE) can't pay their (OUR) rent! ShazzieB Mar 21 #117
Are the MSM reporting this threat? JohnSJ Mar 21 #5
Sounds like extortion to me. Wingus Dingus Mar 21 #13
Yes, or blakcmail. JohnSJ Mar 21 #66
Extortion it is ..... dobleremolque Mar 21 #91
I would like to know what my senior relatives who listen to Fox/Newsmax/OANN are hearing. CrispyQ Mar 21 #54
Ask them again in a few months. Willful ignorance of the coming storm. JohnSJ Mar 21 #67
Its only been 2 months and a day Ruby the Liberal Mar 21 #124
Call their bluff. You think people are mad now? Do it. I dare you. They don't call it the third rail for nothing. /nt GAdem2016 Mar 21 #6
No republican would EVER be elected ever again. BComplex Mar 21 #33
You'd be suprised by the cruel stupidity of the uninformed. Justice matters. Mar 21 #74
Especially if they are given someone to hate mdbl Mar 21 #109
They woke the fuck up when Hoover did nothing after the market crash in 1929 Bengus81 Mar 22 #154
"No republican would EVER be elected ever again" Wednesdays Mar 21 #83
You've got a point. We wouldn't be in this mess if the right didn't control the entire message in this country. BComplex Mar 21 #92
They can try but it won't work. Way to much LIGHT on Musk. Everyone know who's fucking around Bengus81 Mar 22 #155
I don't think there is going to be a fair election ever again. BBbats Mar 21 #122
I think you're right. BlueKota Mar 21 #136
Not as long MFM008 Mar 22 #141
And nobody has apparently done the first audit! This is the result of trump/republicans saying the 2020 election BComplex Mar 22 #150
That was my immediate thought Nikossitti Mar 21 #76
Do it motherfuckers. rubbersole Mar 21 #85
This isn't passing the smell test. Baitball Blogger Mar 21 #7
They won't tell us what the hell they want this info for. Prairie_Seagull Mar 21 #56
This crap is why I'm trying desperately to leave disability. Just have to find remote work. nt Akoto Mar 21 #9
If they stop social security payments, it is outright theft UpInArms Mar 21 #10
2nd Amendment solution in the offing if that happens NotHardly Mar 21 #37
I don't think it wise to piss off folks who UpInArms Mar 21 #72
Mr. Dudek, turn it off and you figure out how you are going to imprison 100's of 1000's of seniors tetedur Mar 21 #11
millions of seniors LoisB Mar 21 #86
SSA processes 72 million checks a month Ruby the Liberal Mar 21 #126
But they promised they wouldn't if enough Democrats voted with them on their budget 🙄 BlueKota Mar 21 #12
.... Think. Again. Mar 21 #20
Light the fuse, asshole, and watch it all blow up in Trump's face Tom Rinaldo Mar 21 #15
The idea that these numb skulls have wormed their way into the framework Dyedinthewoolliberal Mar 21 #16
Dudek is not concerned with his official "responsibilities". Think. Again. Mar 21 #21
in 60 days.... And he already said he wanted the economy to collapse. FAFO and yes to daily pressers. Overdue Evolve Dammit Mar 21 #75
Hostage taking. If the DOGE goons can't abuse the hostages, the goons will execute them. Eugene Mar 21 #17
Give us the data or we harm 70 million Americans! jmbar2 Mar 21 #19
"Nice social safety net ya got there... Think. Again. Mar 21 #22
I'd like to see him try to stop SS dreamland Mar 21 #23
It's Not Only RobinA Mar 21 #80
The richest man in the world wants to steal your money. It's not just S.S., it's everything you own. Hotler Mar 21 #25
Democratic leadership better acquire some courage, real Goddamn fast. Paladin Mar 21 #26
+1 dalton99a Mar 21 #28
So very much this Ruby the Liberal Mar 21 #128
Kick dalton99a Mar 21 #27
This should be the headline on every news outlet in every corner of the USA. Scrivener7 Mar 21 #29
This Mz Pip Mar 21 #51
IF and i mean IF these traitors succeed in destroying SS, somehow somebody will bluestarone Mar 21 #30
Let me break the law or Beck23 Mar 21 #31
It happens either way in this admin. ananda Mar 21 #42
Die for the Dow round 2 Ruby the Liberal Mar 21 #129
Not sure that making open threats like that will stand in a court of law. PortTack Mar 21 #34
Isn't that extortion? zanana1 Mar 21 #35
Ya think?!! WestMichRad Mar 21 #78
Omg do it. Hornedfrog2000 Mar 21 #36
The response to turning off SS will give Trump the excuse Zorro Mar 21 #38
So? Chi67 Mar 21 #119
So his doge department of government elimination can get rid of social security and Medicare kimbutgar Mar 21 #39
Craycray. What difference does it make? ananda Mar 21 #40
He touched the third rail. usonian Mar 21 #41
I wish. littlemissmartypants Mar 21 #60
See my next OP usonian Mar 21 #68
How about they hire an actual audit firm to conduct and independent audit? 33taw Mar 21 #43
KPMG should be qualified. no_hypocrisy Mar 21 #44
For this size of audit they need to identify scope and got out to bid. 33taw Mar 21 #47
What? You don't trust 19 year old hacker boys? IronLionZion Mar 21 #59
I know. But, they present it as an audit. 33taw Mar 21 #77
Today is J.S. Bach's 340th birthday Turbineguy Mar 21 #45
We have now entered dweller Mar 21 #49
Kick SheltieLover Mar 21 #50
I can't ever see that happening. Katinfl Mar 21 #52
Trump only won by popular vote this lasr time. maddiemom Mar 22 #142
Why do the want all that personal data? Is it to build an extermination list? Doodley Mar 21 #53
Since Musk owns the 2 largest data centers in the country Ruby the Liberal Mar 21 #130
Trump and Musk know that many of their... dchill Mar 21 #55
Yes, but so are many of his supporters. nt MarineCombatEngineer Mar 21 #64
True, but he does not care. OldBaldy1701E Mar 21 #102
THAT'S why they need your data! dchill Mar 21 #131
He's not immune. Hold him in contempt and put spooky3 Mar 21 #57
We won't have to hunt them down Bayard Mar 21 #65
So now we are the hostages to their scheme? Give us all your sensitive info, or you won't see another dime. Suckers Evolve Dammit Mar 21 #70
Most orange gangster ever. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 21 #71
That'll make him popular SSJVegeta Mar 21 #79
Its a good thing we caved on the debt so tRump can't shut down SS, oh wait, oops. nt ImNotGod Mar 21 #81
Dudek better start asking for a pardon now before the line gets too long. First crime in; first pardon out... N/T Ol Janx Spirit Mar 21 #84
Pam Bondi will have his ass arrested immediately... rubbersole Mar 21 #89
Bondi won't, but if they fail in their authoritarian coup there will eventually be a new sheriff in town... N/T Ol Janx Spirit Mar 21 #97
Can there be a class action? (nt) fshrink Mar 21 #87
If Dudek Does This, Then Senior Citizens Should Take to the Streets! Daleuhlmann Mar 21 #88
They tamper with it, they might valleyrogue Mar 21 #90
This won't end well. 2naSalit Mar 21 #93
TERRORISM Montauk6 Mar 21 #94
I would venture a guess here that more than 50 % of his followers are bluestarone Mar 21 #95
There Would Definitely Be Greater ""LOVE"" Demonstrated Than On Janurary 6th By The MAGATS MayReasonRule Mar 21 #96
Thank you for posting Nictuku Mar 21 #98
These are the rants of a spoiled child LetMyPeopleVote Mar 21 #99
Voters over age 65 split between Trump & Harris about 50/50 Wiz Imp Mar 21 #100
Go ahead make our day YoshidaYui Mar 21 #101
Go ahead and make our day flamingdem Mar 21 #104
Following Baron2024 Mar 21 #105
Hey DOGE WVreaper Mar 21 #107
Go ahead and step on that land mine dipshit Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 21 #111
A Riot Baron2024 Mar 21 #112
Did you hear about the statement Lutnick made in an interview? yellow dahlia Mar 21 #113
In what alternative universe does this make sense? Seinan Sensei Mar 21 #135
Try it, asshole. louis-t Mar 21 #114
Yeah, go ahead. SergeStorms Mar 21 #115
Go for it dude. You are signing your own death warrant. Martin68 Mar 21 #118
Go ahead BrianTheEVGuy Mar 21 #121
Bullshit Ruby the Liberal Mar 21 #123
Lucky I don't depend on the SS check, sorry for lots that due, please stop for 1 or 2 weeks and see what happens dipshit OverBurn Mar 21 #125
Don't these idiots know that missing payments would crash the economy Ohioboy Mar 21 #127
Let The Try erpowers Mar 21 #132
If it was to stop Abstractartist Mar 21 #133
Lock them all up! Bluethroughu Mar 21 #137
The judge told him he was wrong about what her order said, so he backtracked. SunSeeker Mar 22 #138
I dare you asshole MFM008 Mar 22 #140
OK lonely bird Mar 22 #143
BREAKING: JUDGE RULES AGAINST TRUMP AND DOGE ON SOCIAL SECURITY. GreenWave Mar 22 #151
He will do it anyway. But he's not stooping it - they're stealing it. FDRFTW Mar 22 #157
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