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69. 12th Amendment

Mon Mar 31, 2025, 09:30 AM

Mar 31

says "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

The intent is obvious. If you aren't 35 years old or have already served your limit of terms, you can't be VP. However, the law often comes down to trickery and pretzel reasoning, kind of the meaning of the word "is".

Literally, the 12th and 25th are mostly about ELECTING POTUS and VP. So one could argue that Trump would not be "constitutionally eligible" to be ELECTED as VP, but he could be appointed because the Constitution doesn't explicitly prohibit that. This is the "other scenario" Trump is talking about. He doesn't want to say it out loud because it is such a cynical, farcical idea. But briefly, it would go like this:

In 2028 Mr A and Ms B are elected and take office on Jan 20 2029. Immediately Ms B resigns. Mr A nominates Trump who is confirmed by simple majorities of both houses. Then Mr A resigns, making Trump President.

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Trump won't rule out seeking a third term in the White House, tells NBC News 'there are methods' for doing so [View all] highplainsdem Mar 30 OP

As many on Bluesky have said: choie Mar 30 #1

A toadying GOP rep who introduced a bill to let a president serve a third term specifically excluded highplainsdem Mar 30 #7

Doing what they do best...wasting time & money NotHardly Mar 30 #21

obama? DonCoquixote Mar 30 #11

I used to joke about that Hieronymus Phact Mar 30 #15

and a box of Cigars! DonCoquixote Mar 30 #20

Obama has no interest in running or doing anything beyond the bare minimum every four years. Self Esteem Mar 30 #23

Perhaps you missed his many instances of support for the Harris campaign? mahina Apr 19 #75

Perhaps you missed the part where I said 'every four years'? Self Esteem Apr 19 #80

"A lot of people want me to do it" dweller Mar 30 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author wyn borkins Mar 30 #60

We're on to your game Diaper Don. johnnyfins Mar 30 #3

There certainly is one method that's 100% true Polybius Mar 30 #4

He's saying this so he won't seem like a lame duck. Intractable Mar 30 #5

Healthwise, he's not up for this one BonnieJW Mar 30 #25

But, but Biden was too old!! n/t the nelm Mar 30 #49

In your dreams, Donnie! ProudMNDemocrat Mar 30 #6

King Donald..... SergeStorms Mar 31 #70

Guess it's never occurred to him that if he managed to get that legalized somehow, he would be creamed by Obama. Vinca Mar 30 #8

Evidently not - see comment #7 TommyT139 Mar 30 #47

He's 78 and fading fast NickB79 Mar 30 #9

Yes... to everyone but him. n/t Harker Mar 30 #18

Don't forget Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms, etc. He doesn't drink and so far seems cogent (in relative terms)..... Evolve Dammit Mar 30 #34

He is already homegirl Mar 30 #41

He leaves the White House for good on or before 1/20/2029...... lastlib Mar 30 #10

And there are alternative ways to MAKE Captain Zero Mar 30 #54

As Carl said to that Boy Traildogbob Apr 19 #77

Of course, gotta keep the grift going JoseBalow Mar 30 #12

In Trump's fried and senile little mind.... Escape Mar 30 #13

Dang, I'd like to see him run the Derby! tanyev Mar 30 #57

Damn, you beat me to it! robbob Mar 30 #66

It's for entire horses, not horses' asses. n/t valleyrogue Apr 19 #82

Trump may try the Executive Order route, after all he has directly challenged the 14th amendment, why not the 22nd andym Mar 30 #14

Just more Abstractartist Mar 30 #16

It's 50/50 probability he will try to run again. Irish_Dem Mar 30 #17

Against Obama. tavernier Mar 30 #22

Pay per view. Now that would get him real ratings. Ali vs. an out-of-shape White Hope. Sting like a bee. n/t Evolve Dammit Mar 30 #37

Obama isn't going to run. He's completely checked out. Self Esteem Mar 30 #59

There is absolutely ZERO chance he will try to run again. Wiz Imp Mar 30 #44

This is just whistling past the graveyard. Self Esteem Mar 30 #61

Ha ha. Sure Trump will follow the laws and constitution. Irish_Dem Mar 30 #67

I think Satan would have brought him home by then. Joinfortmill Mar 30 #19

Don the Distractor. Squirrel! bronxiteforever Mar 30 #24

"a lot of people would like me to" Yeah? Name them. Grins Mar 30 #26

Yes, homegirl Mar 30 #42

His rube supporters would be delighted. Turbineguy Mar 30 #27

Oh but according to some people on another thread.... AkFemDem Mar 30 #28

He really cares naught for the Constitution. AllyCat Mar 30 #29

It worked for Putin. Bluetus Mar 30 #30

12th Amendment Bluetus Mar 31 #69

There are only two realistic options and both are unlikely. Self Esteem Mar 30 #31

Him running as VP wouldn't work either. The VP has to be ready to assume the presidentcy PortTack Mar 30 #33

I explained why it could work. Self Esteem Mar 30 #43

Trump still insists he WAS elected in 2020. DFW Mar 30 #52

Thanks for the laugh WA-03 Democrat Mar 30 #53

He thinks he hasn't had enough headlines today. Klarkashton Mar 30 #32

"Unconstitutional" doesn't mean shit to this administration. Karasu Mar 30 #35

So that means rambler_american Mar 30 #36

iNQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW homegirl Mar 30 #38

All 3 claudette Mar 30 #40

There are not claudette Mar 30 #39

Illegal president mac56 Mar 30 #45

These lines subg by liberalhistorian Mar 30 #46

The other method he refused to explain is dictator for life. Martin Eden Mar 30 #48

His simplest method is to... WestMichRad Mar 30 #50

I'd like T*ump to be in prison for a third term. COL Mustard Mar 30 #51

This wannabe king thinks he can use a similar dodge as Putin did in Russia. Eugene Mar 30 #55

Don't fall for another one of his distractions jgmiller Mar 30 #56

When does it start being real then? Self Esteem Mar 30 #58

My point is there are plenty of things now to go after him for jgmiller Mar 30 #62

I feel he's doing this now to exactly pacify us to the idea. Self Esteem Mar 30 #65

LOL. No kidding! ANYTHING to bury the signalgate story. PSPS Mar 30 #64

Tamping down the third term hype for Trump LetMyPeopleVote Mar 30 #63

Really need his Big Mac diet to activate. EllieBC Mar 30 #68

KnR Hekate Mar 31 #71

MaddowBlog-Despite the Constitution, Trump says he's 'not joking' about eyeing a third term LetMyPeopleVote Mar 31 #72

I also doubt that trump will be around for a third term LetMyPeopleVote Mar 31 #73

If Obama won't run. . . Collimator Apr 1 #74

"Let them eat cake" and "Taxes are for little people" bucolic_frolic Apr 19 #76

Any attempt at this would call for a process to stop his pulse. Callie1979 Apr 19 #78

The marmalade shartcannon will not make to any ballot, but he can raise a boatload of money Brother Buzz Apr 19 #79

He only has to run for vice prez Fichefinder Apr 19 #81