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Wiz Imp

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19. At this point, I'm inclined to say they are still honest

Fri Apr 4, 2025, 10:50 AM

Apr 2025

If the Trump administration were to fudge the numbers, they'd want them to look a whole lot better than this. Last month Trump bragged about the drop in Federal Government jobs. This report shows a drop of just 4000 Federal jobs. surely Trump wants that number to be a whole lot bigger. He also bragged about an increase in manufacturing jobs. This report shows a super anemic gain in manufacturing of just 1000.

The report also showed big downward revision to the previously published numbers for January and February.

To top it all, the massive layoffs and firings of federal employees are still not showing up in these numbers. Since many were court ordered to be reinstated, most have apparently not been removed from the counts yet. According to the New York Times, at least 60,000 people have been fired. If they were included in the report, the gain in jobs would be much lower.

While the top line job increase number looks OK, looking at the details, this was not a positive report at all. Future months (especially when the federal job cuts start being accounted for) will look much worse.

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U.S. payrolls rise by 228,000 in March, but unemployment rate increases to 4.2% [View all] BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 OP

An independent group gab13by13 Apr 2025 #1

yep. nt ImNotGod Apr 2025 #4

That other group mainly polls their own subscribers BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 #7

The ADP numbers are "actuals" for about 20% of the private workforce. How they estimate the other 80% progree Apr 2025 #10

How can so many people get laid off and the numbers rise? Weird? walkingman Apr 2025 #2

A lot of them may not have filed for UE yet due to court rulings BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 #6

And both surveys were taken in the week containing March 12, if the usual practice was followed progree Apr 2025 #8

And there have been a billion court rulings over that time BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 #9

UE #'s TalentAgency Apr 2025 #13

Most data is by "survey" BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 #16

Wrong. Wiz Imp Apr 2025 #18

BLS does their various "surveys" BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 #20

No. You are completely 100% wrong Wiz Imp Apr 2025 #23

"jobs numbers are calculated by BLS employees located in DC " BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 #25

I don't know why you refuse to accept it, but you still have several facts wrong. Wiz Imp Apr 2025 #28

"The national job numbers are calculated by plugging the survey responses into a mathematical formula. " BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 #29

OK. One last response and I'm done. Wiz Imp Apr 2025 #30

"How is that ignoring it?" BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 #31

I'm delurking long enough to note that this week's report on unemployment claims numbers is here too. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2025 #27

Are the drumpf administration numbers reliable? biophile Apr 2025 #3

to answer, no, there is no way he will allow any negative reports. nt ImNotGod Apr 2025 #5

At this point, I'm inclined to say they are still honest Wiz Imp Apr 2025 #19

Who's hiring? mdbl Apr 2025 #11

The "health" cuts just started up towards the end of last month and into this month BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 #12

From the source, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics: mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2025 #14

The economy is propelled by the last of the momentum Marthe48 Apr 2025 #15

The last sputtering gasps of the Biden Boom! Finished in 2 months by an orange bloated lying fraudster wolfie001 Apr 2025 #17

I just saw in the linked article from CNBC Wiz Imp Apr 2025 #21

But how many have been reinstated by the courts? BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 #22

The best I can tell about 25,000 have been reinstated by the courts. Wiz Imp Apr 2025 #24

I found the NYT is doing a running tally and apparently the "275,000" is just an "announced" number BumRushDaShow Apr 2025 #26