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73. Federalization

Tue Apr 29, 2025, 07:24 PM

Apr 29

Legally, a President can federalize, or take control over State National Guard units. States can also have something called a State Defense Force, which is under the sole command of the State Governor, and can not be federalized like the State National Guard. The State Defense Forces are essentially State Militia. For example, the State Defense Force in New York is called the New York Guard. Unfortunately, their numbers are very small and negligible compared to the U.S. Military and the National Guard. My thought is that perhaps Blue State Governors could expand their respective State Defense Forces but I am not sure how realistic that is and how quickly it could be done.

Here are links to the Wikipedia articles on the New York Guard and the State Defense Force

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Guard

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_defense_force

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Trump Orders Hegseth and Bondi to 'Determine How Military' Can Be Used in Domestic Law Enforcement [View all] BumRushDaShow Apr 29 OP

Here we go. gab13by13 Apr 29 #1

I predicted 2 months ago that between 3 and 6 months he will order the national guard or the military Javaman Apr 29 #8

It occurred to me EYESORE 9001 Apr 29 #9

oh hell yes, he would... Javaman Apr 29 #11

I have two complicating thoughts on this. Shipwack Apr 29 #18

Yes, the lazy, complicit media's red state/blue state depiction of our country is deliberate, misleading, & dividing. CrispyQ Apr 29 #63

National Guard units are under the control of their respective Governors, am I right? FakeNoose Apr 29 #27

Federalization CitizenZero Apr 29 #73

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Here comes martial law. joshdawg Apr 29 #51

Us Troops terms of engagement with US Citizens,... magicarpet Apr 29 #78

Direct attack on personal freedoms! FirstLight Apr 29 #2

Okay Dems, what are we going to do about it? WinstonSmith4740 Apr 29 #23

*Ding, Ding* Any Republicans awake? bucolic_frolic Apr 29 #3

Not to mention that ICE can kick your door in and come in shooting if they "suspect" you hadEnuf Apr 29 #60

And by a group of people who swore to uphold the Constitution. Irony by the ton with these guys. marble falls Apr 29 #4

Now he wants to declare war on us. The citizens. JohnnyRingo Apr 29 #5

I'm hoping that there'll be "weaponized incompetence". Shipwack Apr 29 #21

I recall him wondering why they can't just shoot BLM protestors .... JohnnyRingo Apr 29 #71

That is precisely DENVERPOPS Apr 29 #35

When Fox News Wednesdays Apr 30 #85

Hogsbreath and Bondi lonely bird Apr 29 #6

Perhaps JBTaurus83 Apr 29 #7

It has been his desire since forever. twodogsbarking Apr 29 #10

Trump, Putin and the Republican Party DENVERPOPS Apr 29 #31

These fuckers... purr-rat beauty Apr 29 #12

Trump is planning for a police state to support his dictatorship. Lonestarblue Apr 29 #13

Tipping point reached: All of you need to have a look at the post about the polls, link here Hekate Apr 29 #14

"Strengthening and Unleashing America's Military to Act Like Criminals and Intimidate Innocent Civilians" Layzeebeaver Apr 29 #16

-OR- BumRushDaShow Apr 29 #20

The final straw. SergeStorms Apr 29 #17

the repugs could easily stop this Nigrum Cattus Apr 29 #19

They're losing money through tariffs Bayard Apr 29 #26

Note to Guardsmen... Moostache Apr 29 #22

"History is written by the victors" Wednesdays Apr 30 #86

The Desperate Last Stand of Tyrannical Thug Chasstev365 Apr 29 #24

Just call it what it is - MARTIAL LAW. NoMoreRepugs Apr 29 #25

Ever read the "Peter Principle"? WinstonSmith4740 Apr 29 #28

Hegseth got promoted after he'd reached his level of incompetence muriel_volestrangler Apr 29 #33

We've let Republican-Fascist propaganda take over the airwaves and internet for decades hadEnuf Apr 29 #61

I think donnie and company better quit while they're ahead! Martial law and arresting Supreme Court justices PortTack Apr 29 #29

This should scare the crap out of everybody. republianmushroom Apr 29 #30

Hilarious Note: DENVERPOPS Apr 29 #32

What is with the sheriff with the brown vest johnnyfins Apr 29 #34

"All of them look like they are straight outta Dukes of Hazzard" BumRushDaShow Apr 29 #36

I would love to see DENVERPOPS Apr 29 #38

LOL BumRushDaShow Apr 29 #41

Bingo DENVERPOPS Apr 29 #50

The voice in my head said BumRushDaShow Apr 29 #52

I'm pulling "Rosco Pee Coltraaayne" from my memory muriel_volestrangler Apr 29 #62

Roscoe P. Coltrane keroro gunsou Apr 30 #84

yep johnnyfins Apr 29 #81

Hey BRDS DENVERPOPS Apr 29 #37

I think he had already talked about that early on BumRushDaShow Apr 29 #42

Exactly, as you have said before DENVERPOPS Apr 29 #44

"Whoever" in the Posse Comitatus Act arguably excludes the President... thesquanderer Apr 29 #39

The Posse Comitatus Act very clearly doesn't exclude the President. TomSlick Apr 29 #80

re: "the immunity SCOTUS created (from whole cloth) would shield Trump from prosecution" thesquanderer Apr 30 #83

Immunity from prosecution is not really the same as being excluded under the law. TomSlick Apr 30 #87

This is what failed governments do. Mr. Sparkle Apr 29 #40

Things are lining up for Insurrection Act announcement at birthday military parade. Thunderbeast Apr 29 #43

That is my thought DENVERPOPS Apr 29 #46

Methinks the Praetorian guard has had its fill Ponietz Apr 29 #54

Important Point CitizenZero Apr 29 #75

Biggest group DENVERPOPS Apr 29 #82

Never ask again how Nazi Germany came about...just watch in real time NotHardly Apr 29 #45

Trump's ex wife DENVERPOPS Apr 29 #48

1. Require that all privately-owned firearms be turned in to the military. mahatmakanejeeves Apr 29 #47

LOL DENVERPOPS Apr 29 #49

Determine or rubber stamp? marble falls Apr 29 #53

Note the Democratic governor of NM already activated the National Guard to patrol streets in Albuquerque Ponietz Apr 29 #55

Another step to declare Martial Law Owens Apr 29 #56

Are we great yet??? LymphocyteLover Apr 29 #57

This is why he wants to keep Hegseth so badly-- that drunk will happily follow these orders LymphocyteLover Apr 29 #58

States should pass laws disallowing the use of the military with law enforcement IbogaProject Apr 29 #59

Good Idea CitizenZero Apr 29 #76

This signals intent to use the military against citizens Picaro Apr 29 #64

Declaration of Re-Dependence: Using the Military to "Prevent Crime" red dog 1 Apr 29 #65

This administration is really fucking pushing it. Initech Apr 29 #66

Like Hitler The Wizard Apr 29 #67

Grab 'em by the ... trusty elf Apr 29 #68

Reads like Victor Orban gave the traitor the play book to do this when he last visited the fascist traitor dictator turbinetree Apr 29 #69

THIS my friends is exactly why TSF defends Hegseth and BONDI. bluestarone Apr 29 #70

Our military and police need to really consider this. BidenRocks Apr 29 #72

All it would take is one armed soldier in his presence with any respect for their oath Orrex Apr 29 #74

House To House Arrest CitizenZero Apr 29 #77

States Rights CitizenZero Apr 29 #79