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DENVERPOPS

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35. Hey BRDS
Wed May 7, 2025, 01:29 PM
May 7

Speaking of the U.S. Military Industrial Complex and them supplying these outrageously priced weapons vs a drone.......

I thought in the run-up to the IRAQ war, by the Cheney/Rumsfeld Presidency, that there would be a need for a un-fathomable amount of money needed to supply the military to supply and then re-build all the military supplies and equipment used.

So, I bought shares of stock in all the seven major military corporations.....Boeing, Raytheon, etc etc
And I sat on them, looking for a serious price increase in their stock ............and surprisingly they didn't increase in price like I suspected, and it made me curious.

It was hard to find information, but I found a privately held group with the name Carlisle(sp?) Because it was privately held, there was little information on them. I did find out that HWBush, when he left the Presidency had landed there as the Chairman of the Board? for years and years.
I saw where it was a group of 602 of the nation's wealthiest who all owned part of this group, and were well invested in the Military Corporations at the time of the IRAQ war.... Like I said it was almost impossible to determine what they were up to. But it would be interesting to have some crack team from Rolling Stone or WaPo to look into it. Because it seemed at the time, all purchases for war items seemed to possibly be run through Carlisle, acting as a middle man, and gleaming the profits of the massive sale of a half a Trillion dollars in purchases needed to supply the war, and the re-building of the stuff all over again that had been depleted.....
I could be off base, but it seemed plausible....????????

I happened upon something else that I found fascinating regarding the Carlisle group.
Money was being cut out of public school budgets across the nation by Republicans, so money was not available to the schools, prompting them to do school fund raising projects.
An elementary school kid and his mother came to our door, selling small bags of popcorn and single sheets of grift wrapping paper.
They wanted five bucks for each petty item, that would normally cost 50 cents. The mom told me they got a dollar from each purchase from the company supplying them......I studied the color brochure of all the items, and when I read the fine print about the Company supplying them, it was the Carlisle (sp?) Group.
Fascinating, cut funding to schools, the schools would have to raise money, somehow, so come up with a scheme to take advantage of it......I figure that the schools made a buck, and they made 4 bucks on every sale.......

Anytime a school group, girl scout cookie drive, or any other organizations comes to my door, I don't buy anything, I just give the group twenty bucks to go directly to the group.....

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You need a Star Wars drone shield bucolic_frolic May 7 #1
We definitely need better defenses against drones William Seger May 7 #13
Mmmmmm Prairie Gates May 7 #2
Army Secretary Traildogbob May 7 #3
No worries, he still has his job as head of BATFE JustABozoOnThisBus May 7 #31
Oh shit...this is the beginning of Skynet. cayugafalls May 7 #4
Haha-- but we are making drones, and Ukraine has shown that drones are the future of warfare LymphocyteLover May 7 #33
If you see lightning and a ball of light then some naked dude, just run. cayugafalls May 7 #57
haha! What? LymphocyteLover May 8 #60
It was a cultural movie reference to the Terminator movies cayugafalls May 8 #61
And the other way? How many Russian weapons were taken out by US supplied weapons? IronLionZion May 7 #5
21st century is gonna be a trip....Climate Change, MAGA, drones, Trump, AI walkingman May 7 #6
Yup, amazing what we, humans, have become. republianmushroom May 7 #8
The movie iRobot with Will Smith, woke me up to the improbable possibilities, no longer improbable. ... aggiesal May 7 #36
But, think of all the congress critters in both parties who are heavily invested in military equipment companies. LiberalArkie May 7 #7
That and the location of these plants underpants May 7 #9
Just an aside Ponietz May 7 #32
On that note... ancianita May 7 #54
If you say so Ponietz May 7 #55
Ukraine has obliterated Russia's armament with drones. Basso8vb May 7 #10
Exactly. The Army secretary has a point. LymphocyteLover May 7 #34
Entire Defense Dept. to be a boondoggle for war profiteers Mysterian May 7 #11
Yep. The Spanish Armada had the same dilemma. Baitball Blogger May 7 #12
Nope. The US Army is also playing a propaganda game to make Russia think Ukraine's weaker than it is. ancianita May 7 #24
Ukraine has been successful in using drones against Russia. Baitball Blogger May 7 #37
I hear you. ancianita May 7 #56
The idiot has it ass backwards FredGarvin May 7 #14
He said the quiet part out loud. The Vids of drones blowing up armored vehicles are stunning. mackdaddy May 7 #15
I go on the UkraineWarVideoReport subreddit OnlinePoker May 7 #17
Ukraine's problem isn't defending armored vehicles FredGarvin May 7 #19
I keep saying Metaphorical May 7 #52
He needs to tell that to the defense contractors . . . AverageOldGuy May 7 #16
The Russians continue to rain down cheap Iranian drones and missiles FredGarvin May 7 #18
WHEN are we, as a species, going to realize..... lastlib May 7 #20
Unfortunately Marthe48 May 7 #23
Never. We're too dumb. Oneironaut May 7 #27
But we can sure chuck expensive aircraft overboard, apparently. ❤️ littlemissmartypants May 7 #21
Has he not been paying attention to Ukraine for the past couple of years? Iggo May 7 #22
He is just another Trump appointee (a.k.a. another unqualified moron). n/t xocetaceans May 7 #25
Broken clocks are right sometimes Ponietz May 7 #38
Please feel free to elaborate on the point that you seem to think that he is making and its merits. It is... xocetaceans May 7 #47
Cheap shots to attack my reading comprehension and need to fix myself Ponietz May 7 #48
Credibility? Who the hell has credibility on an anonymous board? Your sense of fiction is truly outstanding. xocetaceans May 8 #58
A drone gap? Harker May 7 #26
Uh huh! 3825-87867 May 7 #28
Butler Be Leave On May 7 #29
The confrontation is more likely the US and Russia against NATO as long as Mango Mussolini is in charge JT45242 May 7 #30
Hey BRDS DENVERPOPS May 7 #35
Your amoral "investment" strategy is noted and I denounce it Ponietz May 7 #39
Point noted, DENVERPOPS May 7 #43
Thanks for reply Ponietz May 7 #44
You are welcome DENVERPOPS May 7 #46
"It was hard to find information, but I found a privately held group with the name Carlisle(sp?)" BumRushDaShow May 7 #51
Wrong Takeaway North Coast Lawyer May 7 #40
The defense to drones DENVERPOPS May 7 #45
Correct conclusion, incorrect reasoning. TygrBright May 7 #41
Make 'em all drone pilots! marble falls May 7 #42
Welcome to the Military Industrial Complex TexasBushwhacker May 7 #49
Some weapons are more peacetime weapons than full scale war weapons. Norrrm May 7 #50
Store more Top Secrets at Mar-Lardo. Kid Berwyn May 7 #53
One way the Ukrainians have advanced their drone fleet has been through decentralized construction Emrys May 8 #59
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