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38. Actually, the burden in this case is on Trump, not WSJ -- and that's why its a dangerous case for the WSJ
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:31 AM
Jul 2025

Last edited Sat Jul 19, 2025, 04:04 PM - Edit history (1)

As a public figure plaintiff in a defamation suit, Trump has the burden of proving the falsity of the allegedly defamatory statement. He also must establish by clear and convincing evidence that the defendant knew it was false or recklessly disregarded whether it was true. Essentially, the defendant must have knowingly lied or willfully ignored facts that would debunk the statement. This means in practice that Trump would have to establish that the WSJ deliberately lied or fabricated information, or had obvious reason to doubt their source but failed to verify, or departed from professional standards in ways that support an inference of knowing falsity.

That's a tough row to hoe -- and it will mean Trump will push for all kinds of discovery against the defendants, including the disclosure of confidential sources -- a particularly controversial issue in such cases.

On the other hand, WSJ doesn't have the burden of proving the statement to be true in a public figure case. Often, for defendants in defamation cases, the discovery is focused on whether there was injury to the plaintiff's reputation and/or the amount of damages. In a case like this, it probably matters less, except for show, whether Trump suffered any monetary harm -- he wants "vindication" in the form of a decision that the WSJ lied.

So why is this a dangerous case for the WSJ? Because on both the issue of the malice standard and the disclosure of confidential sources, there is every reason to believe that the current SCOTUS would overrule or limit prior precedent in order to make it easier for a public figure to sue a media outlet for defamation

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Hey, Trump! PJMcK Jul 2025 #1
Taco. He'll drop it before any discovery needs to happen. Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #2
If he drops it, Murdoch could counter-sue for vexacious litigation. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2025 #7
Not successfully onenote Jul 2025 #17
Unless the POS in the WH can show they acted with malice, and knowingly made a false statement with lostincalifornia Jul 2025 #3
kelleyanne conjob strikes again??? - n/t lapfog_1 Jul 2025 #4
What insane lawyer signed that frivolous pleading under FRCP Rule 11? Tarzanrock Jul 2025 #5
Found This Thread On reddit r/law That You Might Appreciate... The Court System Is Now His Protection Racket MayReasonRule Jul 2025 #35
He sues for frivolous reasons all the time. ShazzieB Jul 2025 #40
The new f word. twodogsbarking Jul 2025 #6
If you listen carefully you can hear the rattling of attorney's swords. twodogsbarking Jul 2025 #8
Discovery should be fun Ritabert Jul 2025 #9
Why? What do you think the Journal will be seeking to discover that would be relevant to their defense? onenote Jul 2025 #34
Truth Is Generally Considered An Abolute And Complete Defense Against Defamation Claims MayReasonRule Jul 2025 #37
Actually, the burden in this case is on Trump, not WSJ -- and that's why its a dangerous case for the WSJ onenote Jul 2025 #38
So why is this a dangerous case for the WSJ? SCOTUS MayReasonRule Jul 2025 #39
More dangerous to everyone involved with getting the story published IbogaProject Jul 2025 #42
Hey Rupe! Don't forget to demand Attorneys Fees and costs! no_hypocrisy Jul 2025 #10
Do I really have to root for Rupert Murdoch now? ificandream Jul 2025 #11
Root for Joe Palazzolo...he's a good reporter Prairie Gates Jul 2025 #25
Trump sues Wall Street Journal's publisher and 2 reporters over Epstein article LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2025 #12
Maddow Blog-Following Epstein report, Trump files lawsuit against WSJ, Rupert Murdoch and others LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2025 #13
If The President has immunity, he shouldn't be able to file lawsuits on his own behalf. ruet Jul 2025 #14
Just do it felon, just do it. republianmushroom Jul 2025 #15
id love for teh wsj to subpeona the epstein files during discovery.... moonshinegnomie Jul 2025 #16
It wouldn't succeed onenote Jul 2025 #18
This will get interesting orangecrush Jul 2025 #19
20 years ago he was apparently more literate and articulate. Evidence of diminished capacity? Marcuse Jul 2025 #20
Murdoch will 'settle' for million$ pfitz59 Jul 2025 #21
News Corps BumRushDaShow Jul 2025 #28
Has E. Jean Carroll been paid yet? tonekat Jul 2025 #22
I wonder if trump understands choie Jul 2025 #23
He'l deny he wrote the card. He admit he was friends with Epstein prior to 2004. onenote Jul 2025 #43
Analysis from MSNBC's Lisa Rubin with Nicole Wallace pat_k Jul 2025 #24
"seize back the narrative"... IthinkThereforeIAM Jul 2025 #29
Souther District of Florida johnnyfins Jul 2025 #26
My first thought when I seen the location of the filing... IthinkThereforeIAM Jul 2025 #30
It's my understanding that there are only two absolute defenses in law and they concern libel and slander. MIButterfly Jul 2025 #27
Good point... IthinkThereforeIAM Jul 2025 #31
A country to run? lonely bird Jul 2025 #36
I'm... myohmy2 Jul 2025 #32
Can't wait for discovery dlk Jul 2025 #33
What is the discovery phase of a libel suit kkmarie Jul 2025 #41
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