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Prairie Gates

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15. Just to gauge how dumb the whole narrative is, take this sentence
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 09:30 AM
Jul 2025
That was the prevailing mood this week in Johnstown, Pennsylvania, a former steel town and Democratic stronghold that swung heavily for Trump in last November’s election.


Johnstown is in Cambria County.

The last time Cambria County voted for a Democrat was 2000: Al Gore pulled a narrow win. Bush won it in 2004. McCain won it in 2008. Romney won it in 2012. Trump won it in 2016. Trump won it in 2020. Trump won it in 2024. Did it "swing heavily for Trump" in "last November's election?" Well, swing is a relative term, I suppose. Trump won Cambria County with 66% in 2016. He won with 68% in 2020. He won with 69% in 2024. So, it "swung" from Trump 68% to Trump 69%. Those are the facts. Now let's look at the framing again:

That was the prevailing mood this week in Johnstown, Pennsylvania, a former steel town and Democratic stronghold that swung heavily for Trump in last November’s election.


Was Johnstown a former steel town. Well, yes.
Was it a former Democratic stronghold? Perhaps many years ago. Even when Gore won it, it could hardly be called a Democratic stronghold. I view this claim as dishonest.
Did it "swing heavily for Trump in last November's election?" No. It voted heavily for Trump as it has done for the last three elections. It also voted heavily for Romney.

OK, qualifiers: I did not drill down into the Johnstown data to distinguish it from Cambria county more generally. But anyone who knows anything about PA and PA politics would laugh out loud to hear Johnstown described as a Democratic stronghold. Maybe 50 years ago.

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