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muriel_volestrangler

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Sat Nov 22, 2025, 10:49 AM Nov 2025

US tells Nato if Zelenskyy does not sign peace deal Ukraine will face worse in future [View all]

Source: The Guardian

US officials have told Nato allies they expect to push president Volodymyr Zelenskyy into agreeing to a peace deal in the coming days, under the threat that if Kyiv does not sign, it will face a much worse deal in future.

The US army secretary, Dan Driscoll, briefed ambassadors from Nato nations at a meeting in Kyiv late on Friday, after talks with Zelenskyy and taking a phone call from the White House. “No deal is perfect, but it must be done sooner rather than later,” he told them, according to one person who was present.
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Driscoll, a close friend of the US vice-president, JD Vance, who has only recently been put on the Ukraine portfolio, declined to go into detail about whether the deal on the table matched a 28-point plan that had been published in the press. “Some things matter, some are window dressing – and we most focused on the things that matter,” he said, according to the source.
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Julie Davis, the US chargée d’affaires in Kyiv, was also present at the meeting and told the other diplomats that although the terms of the deal were punishing for Ukraine, it had little choice but to accept or face worse in future. “The deal does not get better from here, it gets worse,” she said.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/22/ukraine-zelenskyy-peace-deal-us-nato-meeting



This is just Trump being Putin's enforcer. Telling your ally "we're going to make things worse and worse for you" shows you're not actually an ally, you're an enemy.
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It is not a peace deal. Botany Nov 2025 #1
Agree. plus i feel Zelenskyy will be bluestarone Nov 2025 #2
I agree. The other two should be found dead. OLDMDDEM Nov 2025 #7
I agree. Rewarding the aggressor and threatening the dignity and sovereignty of Ukraine is no peace deal Deuxcents Nov 2025 #4
Exactly! yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #23
Trump is forcing Ukraine to live under Putin or die. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #3
What a choice. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #24
No choice really is it. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #27
Live Free or Die - The motto for the State of NH. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #28
Yes it has new meaning today. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #29
Exactly. And people are dying. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #30
Unfortunately, Europe needs to remilitarize ASAP NickB79 Nov 2025 #5
What is the point of NATO then? BeyondGeography Nov 2025 #6
NATO needs to tell Trump to fuck off VMA131Marine Nov 2025 #8
The US is out of NATO, for all practical purposes... William Seger Nov 2025 #14
Or, to be precise: Putin, through Trump administration proxies, tells NATO... Mister Ed Nov 2025 #9
Any American who supports this spits in the face of every veteran who served in Korea, Vietnam, West Berlin, etc ChicagoTeamster Nov 2025 #10
They only have to stay strong for three years. And Europe will be behind them. Baitball Blogger Nov 2025 #11
Slava Ukraini Marthe48 Nov 2025 #12
Nice country you got there Marthe48 Nov 2025 #13
The beatings will continue until morale improves IbogaProject Nov 2025 #15
Not much could be worse than the deal Trump wants to shove down Ukraine's throat. Martin68 Nov 2025 #16
Peace deal? No. Shakedown. Beartracks Nov 2025 #17
Driscoll, as is glaringly obvious, has no diplomatic experience whatsoever. Emrys Nov 2025 #18
These people suck! yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #25
Got to survive lame duck donald the Russian dotard. bronxiteforever Nov 2025 #19
Sam Kiley of the Independent has an interesting perspective on the "peace" plan Momma Nov 2025 #20
Insert raspy voice: Xolodno Nov 2025 #21
And when the US military industrial complex see how much MONEY they are gonna loose, they will pay off mitch96 Nov 2025 #22
This is a pure Russian/putin wishlist LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2025 #26
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